Y. Exactly.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 3:20 PM PJ Fanning <fannin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The logs look like they come from Maven Enforcer and are based on the
> poms published to Maven Central.
>
> https://maven.apache.org/enforcer/enforcer-rules/dependencyConvergence.html
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 at 21:16, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 8, 2025, at 11:13 AM, Tim Allison <talli...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you, all. I'm sorry for the noise.
> > >
> > > As you all point out, these are not a POI or even XMLBeans issue, and
> > > provided should be, ahem, provided.
> > >
> > > We added convergence checks in Tika after an irate downstream user
> > > complained.
> >
> > Just curious if the irate user complaint was based on SBOMs? If so, were
> they using CycloneDS generated by a Maven build, or SPDX from GitHub’s
> Dependency graph Insights?
> >
> > > On Tika, we "fix" the convergence problems by specifying the
> > > most recent version in the dependencyManagement section of our parent
> pom.
> > > This relies on the hope of backward compatibility for the more recent
> > > version for a conflict, and it also relies on unit tests and large
> scale
> > > regression testing (along the lines of what PJ (or was it Dominik?)
> > > suggested).
> > >
> > > Again, many thanks!
> >
> > Best,
> > Dave
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >       Tim
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 12:41 PM Dominik Stadler
> > > <dominik.stad...@gmx.at.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> To be honest, I also don't see too much value in applying such checks.
> > >> There will always be failures as soon as larger dependencies are
> added to a
> > >> project and it is nearly impossible to avoid it while at the same time
> > >> keeping dependencies up-to-date for fixing security issues.
> > >>
> > >> Dominik.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 4:09 PM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> We won't be changing this for the release.
> > >>> I, personally, do not understand the use of strict dependency
> convergence
> > >>> checks. If you have a few dependencies and those dependencies have
> common
> > >>> transitive dependencies - you are almost guaranteed to have a
> convergence
> > >>> issue.
> > >>> Why should these tools not be intelligent enough to spot that log4j
> > >> 2.24.2
> > >>> and 2.24.3 differ only at the patch level (semantic versioning)?
> > >>> For me, strict dependency convergence checks are a very poor
> substitute
> > >>> for users running acceptance tests when they want to change the
> versions
> > >> of
> > >>> their dependencies.
> > >>> You should also strongly consider adding more dependencies in your
> builds
> > >>> so that you control the version of the jars explicitly instead of
> relying
> > >>> on the versions in your transitive dependencies. This would also make
> > >> your
> > >>> dependency convergence checks happy.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2025/01/08 14:47:10 Joep Weijers wrote:
> > >>>> Hi all,
> > >>>> Great to hear that 5.4.0 is almost released! I tested the version
> out
> > >>> and did notice the following dependency convergence issue on
> > >>> org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-api:
> > >>>> (Small Maven quickstart archetype pom with a dependency on poi-ooxml
> > >>> 5.4.0, running `mvn dependency:tree -Dverbose
> > >>> -Dincludes=org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-api`)
> > >>>> [INFO] --- dependency:3.6.1:tree (default-cli) @ test-poi-ooxml ---
> > >>>> [INFO] com.topdesk.test:test-poi-ooxml:jar:1.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>> [INFO] \- org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>> [INFO]    +- org.apache.poi:poi:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>> [INFO]    |  \-
> (org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-api:jar:2.24.3:compile
> > >> -
> > >>> omitted for duplicate)
> > >>>> [INFO]    +- org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>> [INFO]    |  \-
> (org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-api:jar:2.24.2:compile
> > >> -
> > >>> omitted for conflict with 2.24.3)
> > >>>> [INFO]    \- org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-api:jar:2.24.3:compile
> > >>>> Not sure if you’d like to address this before release, but this
> would
> > >>> make our build with the dependencyConvergence rule enabled in the
> Maven
> > >>> enforcer plugin unhappy. For now I have fixed it by excluding the
> > >> log4j-api
> > >>> dependency from poi-ooxml.
> > >>>> Kind regards,
> > >>>> Joep Weijers
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 2025/01/07 19:27:58 Tim Allison wrote:
> > >>>>> +1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Apologies for my delay. Looks good.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Confirmed src.tgz digest
> > >>>>> Built locally and ran tests
> > >>>>> Integrated with Tika's main branch.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank you PJ, Dominik and team!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> P.S. I did notice some convergence issues. I don't think these are
> a
> > >>>>> showstopper...not clear if we should fix these in XMLBeans or let
> > >>>>> downstream users fix them in the next release.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [ERROR] Dependency convergence error for
> > >>>>> org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1 paths to dependency are:
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]         +-org.apache.maven:maven-settings:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >> +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR] and
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.maven:maven-settings-builder:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >> +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR] and
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.maven:maven-settings-builder:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>>>> +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-sec-dispatcher:jar:2.0:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.4.1:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR] and
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>>>> +-org.apache.maven:maven-repository-metadata:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >> +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR] and
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]         +-org.apache.maven:maven-artifact:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >> +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR] and
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.maven:maven-resolver-provider:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >> +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR] and
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>>>> +-org.eclipse.sisu:org.eclipse.sisu.plexus:jar:0.9.0.M3:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >> +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR] and
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
>  +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR] and
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-model:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
>  +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR] and
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-plugin-api:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
>  +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-utils:jar:3.5.1:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>>>> [ERROR] Dependency convergence error for
> > >>>>> org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-classworlds:jar:2.6.0 paths to
> dependency
> > >>> are:
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>>>> +-org.eclipse.sisu:org.eclipse.sisu.plexus:jar:0.9.0.M3:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-classworlds:jar:2.6.0:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR] and
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-core:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-classworlds:jar:2.8.0:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR] and
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.apache.tika:tika-parser-microsoft-module:jar:4.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > >>>>> [ERROR]   +-org.apache.poi:poi-ooxml:jar:5.4.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]     +-org.apache.xmlbeans:xmlbeans:jar:5.3.0:compile
> > >>>>> [ERROR]       +-org.apache.maven:maven-plugin-api:jar:3.9.9:runtime
> > >>>>> [ERROR]
> > >>> +-org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-classworlds:jar:2.8.0:runtime
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 4:56 PM PJ Fanning <fa...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> We need at least 1 more review from a POI PMC member before we can
> > >>>>>> proceed. If anyone has time, it would be much appreciated.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 2025/01/02 13:29:43 Dominik Stadler wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I tested the staged binaries with various projects and reviewed
> > >>> contents
> > >>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>> the source-distribution. Also compilation from source did work.
> > >> So
> > >>>>>>> everything fine as far as I see.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I vote +1 for release!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks PJ for preparing the release! Dominik.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 8:19 PM PJ Fanning
> > >> <fa...@yahoo.com.invalid
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hello POI Community,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This is a call for a vote to release Apache POI version 5.4.0
> > >>> (RC2).
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The discussion thread:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/4sd7p5z2cxp0l9wb2orw4n0gc9w348gw
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The release candidate:
> > >>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/poi/5.4.0-RC2/
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This release has been signed with a PGP key available here:
> > >>>>>>>> https://downloads.apache.org/poi/KEYS
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Release Notes:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/poi/RELEASE-NOTES-5.4.0.txt
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I will add the svn tag REL_5_4_0 if the vote passes.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Svn commit ID:
> > >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/poi/trunk@1922754
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Please download, verify, and test.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> We have also staged jars in the Apache Nexus Repository.
> > >>>>>>>> These were built with the same code as appears in this Source
> > >>> Release
> > >>>>>>>> Candidate.
> > >>>>>>>> We would appreciate if users could test with these too.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> If anyone finds any serious problems with these jars, please
> > >> also
> > >>>>>> notify
> > >>>>>>>> us on this thread.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/poi/
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> In gradle, you can add this repository.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> maven {
> > >>>>>>>>    url "https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/
> > >> "
> > >>>>>>>> }
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The VOTE will pass if we have more positive votes than negative
> > >>> votes
> > >>>>>>>> and there must be a minimum of 3 approvals from POI PMC
> > >> members.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I will leave the vote open for at least a week.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> [ ] +1 approve
> > >>>>>>>> [ ] +0 no opinion
> > >>>>>>>> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> To learn more about Apache POI, please see
> > >>> https://poi.apache.org/
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Checklist for reference:
> > >>>>>>>> [ ] Download links are valid.
> > >>>>>>>> [ ] Checksums and signatures.
> > >>>>>>>> [ ] LICENSE/NOTICE files exist
> > >>>>>>>> [ ] No unexpected binary files
> > >>>>>>>> [ ] Source files have ASF headers
> > >>>>>>>> [ ] Can compile from source
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> To compile from the source, please refer to:
> > >>>>>>>> https://poi.apache.org/devel/index.html
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Some notes about verifying downloads can be found at:
> > >>>>>>>> https://poi.apache.org/download.html
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Here is my +1 (binding).
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>> PJ Fanning (Apache POI PMC member)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
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