Hi Yong,

Thanks for starting this, and for keeping GET applicable-policies out of
this thread :) I agree listPolicies is the right first cut.
I’d honor pagination in both cases. The spec already advertises page-token
/ page-size regardless of policyType, and if we only paginate when the
filter is absent the same endpoint has two contracts.

Case 1 looks like a straight follow of listSemanticModels (thread PageToken
into listEntities, LinkedHashSet so order is stable).

For case 2 I would not ignore pagination, and I would not start with a new
store method. policyType lives in entity properties, so
listEntitiesByPolicyType is an SPI + every backend. Post-filter pagination
is enough to honor the REST contract: a page should contain up to pageSize
matching policies, not a store page that is then filtered down.
BasePersistence.listFullEntities already takes an entityFilter and pages
after it. A dedicated store filter can come later if policy volume needs it.

wdyt?

Thanks,
Prithvi S

On Sun, Sep 13, 2026 at 6:45 AM Yong Zheng <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I would like to start this ML for discussing if we should implement the
> pagination support for policy APIs (GET policy only for this ML). Here is a
> reference report issue for this matter:
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/issues/5311.
>
> Currently we have following paths which should support pagination:
>
> 1. GET /polaris/v1/{prefix}/namespaces/{namespace}/policies
> 2. GET /polaris/v1/{prefix}/applicable-policies
>
> For GET policies, we are returning everything via
> PageToken.readEverything() (
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/blob/main/runtime/service/src/main/java/org/apache/polaris/service/catalog/policy/PolicyCatalog.java#L177C15-L177C41
> )
>
> For GET applicable-policies, we are computing effective policy by walking
> the entity hierarchy in memory rather than issuing an single backing-store
> listing, we may need some discussion around this. But it may be worth to
> start a different ML for this unless preferred by the community.
>
> Now to honor the pagination for GET policy, there are 2 cases which we
> will need to support:
>
> case 1: No filter on policyType
>
> This is the simple case where we just need to thread the token and
> matching to listSemanticModels (ref:
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/blob/48126190377cfb2d0a54b4b9905a7375fde457ec/extensions/semantic-models/src/main/java/org/apache/polaris/service/catalog/semanticmodel/SemanticModelCatalogAdapter.java#L92
> ).
>
> case 2: Filter on policyType
>
> When a policyType is been set, the current code is calling
> listFullEntitiesAll and perform filter in memory (ref:
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/blob/main/runtime/service/src/main/java/org/apache/polaris/service/catalog/policy/PolicyCatalog.java#L188
> ).
>
> For case 2, I would like to see what community thinks regarding what we
> should perform:
> 1. Ignore the pagination when a filter is set?
> - In this case, we stay with current behavior
> 2. Pagination at the post-filter?
> - We do pagination on the filtered response
> 3. Add a filter-aware store mthod?
> - Something likes listEntitiesByPolicyType that we handle pagination and
> avoid current full fetch and in-memory filter
>
> Thanks,
> Yong
>

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