Hi Yong,

That's a good call (I think I mentioned that we should start a
discussion in a PR I reviewed).

BasePersistence.listFullEntities already takes an entityFilter +
PageToken, and AtomicOperationMetaStoreManager already uses that exact
pattern elsewhere (the task listing , catalog_role, etc). So this is a
valid path. The missing part is that
PolarisMetaStoreManager.listFullEntities hardcodes entity, so
PolicyCatalog can't reach the filter-aware version. I think we have to
add a small filter-aware overload at the manager layer to thread a
policyType predicate down.
That's a small approach we can implement easily.

Regards
JB

On Sun, Sep 13, 2026 at 3:14 AM Yong Zheng <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to start this ML for discussing if we should implement the 
> pagination support for policy APIs (GET policy only for this ML). Here is a 
> reference report issue for this matter: 
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/issues/5311.
>
> Currently we have following paths which should support pagination:
>
> 1. GET /polaris/v1/{prefix}/namespaces/{namespace}/policies
> 2. GET /polaris/v1/{prefix}/applicable-policies
>
> For GET policies, we are returning everything via PageToken.readEverything() 
> (https://github.com/apache/polaris/blob/main/runtime/service/src/main/java/org/apache/polaris/service/catalog/policy/PolicyCatalog.java#L177C15-L177C41)
>
> For GET applicable-policies, we are computing effective policy by walking the 
> entity hierarchy in memory rather than issuing an single backing-store 
> listing, we may need some discussion around this. But it may be worth to 
> start a different ML for this unless preferred by the community.
>
> Now to honor the pagination for GET policy, there are 2 cases which we will 
> need to support:
>
> case 1: No filter on policyType
>
> This is the simple case where we just need to thread the token and matching 
> to listSemanticModels (ref: 
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/blob/48126190377cfb2d0a54b4b9905a7375fde457ec/extensions/semantic-models/src/main/java/org/apache/polaris/service/catalog/semanticmodel/SemanticModelCatalogAdapter.java#L92).
>
> case 2: Filter on policyType
>
> When a policyType is been set, the current code is calling 
> listFullEntitiesAll and perform filter in memory (ref: 
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/blob/main/runtime/service/src/main/java/org/apache/polaris/service/catalog/policy/PolicyCatalog.java#L188).
>
> For case 2, I would like to see what community thinks regarding what we 
> should perform:
> 1. Ignore the pagination when a filter is set?
> - In this case, we stay with current behavior
> 2. Pagination at the post-filter?
> - We do pagination on the filtered response
> 3. Add a filter-aware store mthod?
> - Something likes listEntitiesByPolicyType that we handle pagination and 
> avoid current full fetch and in-memory filter
>
> Thanks,
> Yong

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