+1
(Non binding)

I am not a member of this project but I believe in it and in its value.

What you said is very true Rich. I think it is time to graduate this project 
despite some incubator aspects advising against it

Christian

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The Apache Software Foundation
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On Mon, Jun 29, 2026, at 15:46, Rich Bowen wrote:
> I was chatting with folks in the PonyMail Slack channel, and, to 
> summarize, I believe that we have nothing whatsoever to gain by staying 
> in the Incubator another minute, and that we are actively harming the 
> Incubator’s reputation every month we stay there. Ten years in the 
> incubator is absolutely absurd. We should graduate immediately.
>
> I recognize that I have very little standing here, since I’ve done very 
> little on the project, but with every hat I possess (member, former 
> director, someone who cares about the Incubator, someone who cares 
> about community development) I believe it’s dumb to stay in the 
> Incubator.
>
> This project will *never* have a large and vibrant community. Mailing 
> lists are old-school, and we have a VERY limited potential audience. 
> That’s ok. And gating on “you haven’t build a big enough community” for 
> graduation means that we will never graduate.
>
> Enough is enough. 10 years is goofy. I want to propose that we graduate 
> immediately.
>
> Any objections to me shoving this through the process?
>
> —Rich

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