From: "eric.bachard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:33:24 +0100

   > Pavel Janík a écrit :
   > >    > Only spadmin is not necessary, and can be bumped. Of course, it can 
be
   > >    > packaged after (with fondu, for example ;-) )
   > > ? How is spadmin connected with the installer?
   > 
   > For Apple font install. *Always* asked. Apple font are not in the same
   > format than Linux, as example. They have to be extracted to recover
   > the "OOo usable form". On Mac OSX, a lot of fonts exist.

And is spadmin the tool to extract them? Excuse me, but I do not know MacOS
X very well, as you already know ;-)

   > >    > So, important thing to understand is what we want to do : where 
Sun's
   > >    > work stop, and for example where project's work begin.
   > 
   > > How is Sun connected with this? We are *always* talking about
   > > OpenOffice.org project.
   > 
   > Yes, my mistake, I wanted to write OpenOffice.org, of course.

This also doesn't make sense. On GNU/Linux we produce final packages that
are to be used for the installation. Why should this be different for other
operating system?

   > And, BTW, what is the frequency of official builds ? IMHO, for devel
   > versions, we don't need to package.  So only stable versions builds
   > with installer can be another solution, and save a lot of time.

I think we are in the same position like we-want-NSIS-installer-for-Windows
people. You can't package only final version because:

- you have to do QA before actual release

- QA has to be done from the beginning, so the installation itself has to
  be QAed

- QAing non-final packages is lost work

-> you have to produce final packages/installers regularly to get better
testing and feedback.

It is not about frequency. It is pretty independent. Does frequency of
official build matter for producing RPM packages on GNU/Linux? How is MacOS
X different from GNU/Linux?


   > > new builder comes, we have to teach him to produce builds *with*
   > > installer. This is really crazy.
   > 
   > No, to create usable package, the build process has to be modified.

Yes. Finally we 100% agree ;-) I was convinced that MacOS X users need
different installer than we produce now. This is an issue and has to be
solved. Solved like other issues: in our CVS to have it fixed in next
release, verified and FINALLY closed.

We again speak to much instead of actually doing something, sorry for that.
-- 
Pavel Janík

"printk(KERN_ERR "happy meal: Receiver BigMac ATTACK!");"
                  -- Linux kernel: drivers/net/sunhme.c

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