eric.bachard wrote:

> Hi,
>
> James McKenzie a écrit :
>
>> Pavel Janík wrote:
>
>
>> Corrected URL:
>> http://blog.janik.cz/archives/2005/12/#e2005-12-18T20_09_25.htm
>>
>> Interesting article and thank you for posting it.
>
>
>
> GPL against LGPL is too easy for GPL : what I see there is a one way
> contribution in fact.
>
What does this have to do with Pavel's postings?  I don't get the
connection of a license agreement to the comments made by Pavel about
Universal Binaries.

And for the comments made by Ed.  He had spent about a month of his
spare time trying to port OpenOffice 1.1.5 to work with gcc 4 and found
that this task was taking up too much of his time and that he kept on
running into various problems that would not allow the compile to
complete.  He started this project long before the release of the final
OpenOffice 2.0 version. Since the release of OpenOffice 2.0, it is much
easier to find and fix the problems with compiling/building with Apple's
version of gcc 4.

>
> Please don't imagine something wrong.
>
I don't 'imagine' anything is wrong.  However, I've been around for
quite some time (let's put it this way, I wrote assembler code for the
Z-80, I can remember when MacAfee VirusScan was shareware, and
Windows2003 still has a 'bug' that viruses from the early 1990s can
exploit.)  I can also remember when there was NO such thing as the
LGPL.  The idea of Open Source is that you add your contributions to an
existing project, or you start one of your own.  Others
add/delete/modify/fix as needed and contribute back to the entire
project.  You HAVE to include your sources with your releases (read
through the GPL completely and you will see this statement) or make them
available on a public server for anyone to download.  This is what makes
Open Source so powerful, but also dangerous.  In any case, I see this
argument as 'picking at straws' and is a minor point in getting
OpenOffice ported with all functionality to the MacIntosh (be the
operating system MacOSX or Mactel.)

> The problem is not to share code : I'm completely for free software,
> the problem is *who* is *really* working for Mac OS X port of
> OpenOffice.org.
>
I don't know.  You have a project that I cannot (or have not) been able
to get at the source for as of yet.  Patrick/Ed/Dan and others put their
efforts on the NeoOffice.org site and this code is available for public
download from the cvs server (like that at OpenOffice.org).  Are you
willing to put your team's efforts out for the rest of the world to look
at, discuss at length and help fix/improve if necessary?  If so, please
let us know where the sources are at so we can look at them and suggest
improvements.  I know it is very early in your efforts, but at this time
I have doubts that this will EVER happen (and the emphasis is there for
a reason.)   Keeping your project secret is not in the spirit of Open
Source and makes the rest of us wonder if it even exists.  The question
in my mind is:  Does sources exist for your project, where are they and
what type of license are they going to be released under.  Sun, after
several years, gave up on the SSISL because it was not enforceable in
both the EU and USA. 
And I'm definately working on a port of OpenOffice to the Mac that works
TODAY.  I'm not going to wait for a project that may see results in two
to three YEARS.  And this is without the support of SUN or any other
major company.  This is something to keep in mind when you start a new
project.  Will this project create a new and better product or is it
best to help an already existing project improve to the point where your
efforts are recognized.  It appears that you want much glory and if you
succeed, this may/may not happen.  However, pointing out the failures of
others does not do much to help your effort and may actually have a
counterproductive effect.

James

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