At 7:48 AM +0200 10/27/05, Andre Schnabel wrote:
What is missing for the moment are testers for MacOS X and FreeBSD
RC's (see message by Eric Bachard). Helping hands would be welcome
for those platforms.
I would like to help out in this regard. But I must say that in spite
of the wealth of text on the "How Can I Help?" type of pages on the
OOo site, it is not very easy to figure out where someone like me -
who is NOT a programmer (but I am long-time veteran software tester)
- fits into this testing process.
So I need to ask these questions here because the only OOo-for-Mac
web forum link I could find (trinity) seemed to have more to do with
NeoOffice and running OOo 2.0 under X-11, with no apparent area of
the forum for the OS X porting project (In fact, no mention is even
made of that project on the trinity.neooffice.org home page! ...
perhaps because a native OS X release of OOo will effectively put
NeoOfficeJ "out of business"??? hmmmm). I hope it is not too out of
place to ask these q's here, but I have spent at least 2 hours
clicking through all kinds of pages on www.OO.org trying to figure
out how to get involved in this process, and have been led in a
complete circle several times over, between the info on the qa site
and the info on the porting site.
My Q's:
1. What skill level of "testers" is being sought? Absolutely no
description is provided. Does "testers" mean "people with
programming-level skills" rather than "end-users who know how to
conduct structured, deductive tests and post good bug reports"??
2. If the answer to #1 is "end-users can participate" ... where in
tarnation does one download the latest build for testing? The
"Download" link at the top of all www.OO.org pages leads me back to
2.0/X-11 (i.e., to the release versions). The "Documents and Files"
link on the page at http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/testing.html
does not have any builds. The "Documents and Files" link on the page
at http://qa.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList does not
have any builds to download & install either (though I did very
dutifully download the duplicates list and will study it). And the
link of the same name on the page at
http://porting.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList is no help
either.
So ... HELP?? Thanks!!
I would like to point out, in response to messages I've noticed
saying that "more testers are needed" ... a lot of media coverage was
earned by the release of 2.0. That's how I heard about
openOffice.org. This project is therefore now about to attract in a
lot more end-users and "in-betweeners" like me (i.e., not a
programmer, but am a computer professional [database consultant]).
Especially those of us who are technically oriented, though we may
not be C programmers, I'm sure we have much to contribute in the
pre-release QA process.
But the OpenOffice.org site is just not oriented to people who may
not be programmers but do with to help. This email is already too
long, so I will spare you the long list of all the points of
difficulty a newcomer (who has never been involved on any programming
team, never mind participated in an OS project) has in figuring out
where they fit into the process. Unless this is addressed, we will
lose many people who get too frustrated and give up rather than stick
their neck out like I am here and post a message to
possible-the-wrong-list.
So, in closing, can someone point me to the individual/forum/mailing
list where one can help with suggestions for rewriting site text and
perhaps creating a better "Welcome, How to Get Started" page for
non-geek newcomers?
Thanks again, and regards to all,
kazar
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