Hi James,

James Mckenzie schrieb:
Clytie:

I will add that I agree the use of automated testing is paramount to the 
completion of QA on OpenOffice.org.
We do not have enough people to do manual testing, even for the American 
English version as we would
have to go through each menu, dialog, wizard, and help file (just to begin 
with) in addition to testing all
functionality of the program.

Pleas don't mix up the diffent tests. The "go through all menus and dialogs" test is not in Release Sanity scenario. So this test is not mandatory for an approval.

  And if we miss one item, our users will find them and maybe/maybe not repoort
it. More likely, they will tell their friends about the poor quality control and ask them to not use it.

*sigh* and why do you think, that testtool would help there? Someone needs to write the scripts and might miss some functionality and / or dialogs. Users might find the bugs and you are exactly in the same situation. There is *always* the risk to deliver a version that might have bugs. And thats why the QA representatives are so important: they need to judge the risk.


Furthermore I see more and more complaints about manual testing (some people seemingly like to skip manual tests at all and do only automated tests instead). But manual tests have something that you have not in automated tests: a person who executes the tests and can use his / her brain for the current test case. Using brain instead of a pre-written test script is much more like the normal user's behaviour.

So after all .. I don't get your point: do we to much testing? Do we to little testing? Pleas don't tell that we do the wrong testing .. rather tell how to do the right testing.

André

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