Alex Thurgood wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I don't know whether this has come up on the general user list because I'm 
> not 
> subscribed, but I imagine at least some here have seen this recent article in 
> Fortune :
> 
> http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/index.htm
> 
> Anyone from Sun Legal ou there ? Thought not :-) 
> Now, we can all just sit around guffawing (which is what we generally do 
> anyway when a senior position at MS opens their mouths) or we, as a 
> community, can actually take this seriously, and try to elaborate a response 
> or at least deign to think about it.
> 
> Let's face it, Sun Legal must know which bits of code were accused of being 
> infringing patents in StarOffice, and some of that code must be in OOo, since 
> in the end a deal was signed to settle all outstanding software patent 
> litigation, so is there any chance of a person like myself (who is sworn to 
> professional secrecy and bears privilege) getting access to that information 
> so I can take a look at it in my spare time ? 
> 
> Alex Thurgood
> European Patent Attorney, French Patent Attorney
> 
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Software patents are a madness, they should be declared illegal all over
the world, while "big bad boys" are trying to make them introduced instead.
There is NOTHING you can do against software patents in particular. They
are patents upon generic ideas, every software of middle complexity
infringes some hundred. Probably M$ products infringe some thousands.
M$ patents a generic idea (i.e. as they did with XML files for document
storage, granted in some countries) and everyone that has build on his
own a software that does what is generically claimed is doomed. Software
patents is called "minefield".
In general the response would be:
a) tell that sw patents are wrong, wrong, and wrong, a position Sun does
not agree (at least, in the past), since it helps big company in keeping
their monopolies, even if with some burden (remember Kodak that sued Sun
upon Java-infringing patents, and Sun had to pay?). Explain what they
are, otherwise people think that OOo has stoled code from M$, while is
M$ that stoled generic ideas and declared "my property".
b) tell that M$ products infringe tons of other patents. Big companies
don't usually sue each other, they "exchange patents portfolio" instead,
but fortunately there are the so called "patent trolls" that have not
interest in exchange and can bit them hard. No one sued FOSS so far,
while M$ has lot of trials about patents infringements... (of course
there are other reasons for that than that FOSS does not infringe sw
patents)
c) ask the US government to declare software patents and business
methods ILLEGAL to grant, like is in Europe, even if M$ is pushing hard
to make them legal here also. They want to reform the patent
legislation, but seems only to avoid bad effects for the Big Guys and
not to declare it a madness and remove.

Just for record, visit:
http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/
www.ffii.org
http://heironymouscoward.blogspot.com/
or for a list of daily craziness:
http://press.ffii.org/Software_patent_news

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Marco Menardi
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