Hi!
Thank you for insisting, I was partly wrong. This is what I did:
- Insert a note with some text
- Insert a callout
- Insert a rectangle
- Call navigator <F5>
-> See that the note is listed with its content.
- Close navigator <F5>
- Select the note
- Ctrl + A
-> Now I see: Like this, all objects get selected.
- Via context: Group - Group
-> Now all three objects are grouped
- Save the file
- Reload the file
- Call navigator <F5>
-> Because the note is a "sub element" of the group now, the note is NOT
listed in Navigator anymore.
-> Select the group and ungroup it
-> The Note changed to a "callout" and is not listed in navigator anymore.
Though this is not easy visible for the user, the document structure ("A
note is a note and treated as such" is gone and some notes-related
features (print them, show them etc) do not work anymore.
So the ability to make a multi-selection like this (Select note, then
ctrl-A) should be prevented and is a defect.
It gives the user the ability to ruin the document structure without
noticing it at first.
Regards,
Stefan
limeiying wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
>
> As far as what you mentioned, I understand, but I can't totally agree with
> what you said.
> I think Callouts is different from Notes.
> Firstly, if insert Callouts, whatever you select Callouts firstly or select
> Rectangle firstly,
> then CTRL +A, you can select these two kinds of objects. But if insert Notes,
> only select
> select Notes firstly, then CTRL +A, you can select these two kinds of objects.
>
> Secondly, like what you said
>> If you group notes and schrink/enlarge them, they would lose their
>> connection to "their" cell.
> If I group Notes and shrink/enlarge them, they "would not" lose their
> connection
> to "their" cell.
> But if I group Callouts and shrink/enlarge them, they indeed would lose there
> connection
> to "their" cell.
>
> So, my question
> 1 if select Notes firstly, then CTRL +A, I can select these two kinds of
> objects,
> in this way this action is not "reasonable", am I right?
> If I am right, should I file an issue about it?
> 2 If you group notes and shrink/enlarge them, they would lose their
> connection to "their" cell.
> From my checking, they wouldn't lose their connection, is it right or
> not?
>
> Regards
> Li Meiying
>
> Stefan Baltzer said "Re: [qa-dev] Can I select Notes and Drawing object at
> the same time?" at 00:10:22 on 2009-07-08 :
>
>> limeiying wrote:
>>> Hi Oliver and all,
>>>
>>> In Clac file, insert Notes for cell B5, then insert a drawing object like
>>> Rectangle,
>>> then I try to select these two objects, but I don't know choosing them at
>>> the
>>> same time is a reasonable operation.
>> No, it is not "reasonable".
>>
>>> Q1, Can I select Notes and Drawing objects at the same time?
>> A multi-selection including notes is prevented on purpose.
>> This is the same as in MS Excel.
>>
>> If you group notes and schrink/enlarge them, they would lose their
>> connection to "their" cell.
>>
>> If you insert a "callout" into a calc document, group it with i.e. a
>> rectangle and then toy with the size of the group selection rectangle,
>> you can see the effect.
>>
>> Internally, Notes are also " a special type of callouts". So to have
>> something you can select, group and squeeze, use callouts instead.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>>> Q2,
>>> Q2.1, If Q1 says yes, select drawing objects firstly, then CTRL + A to
>>> select Notes, find I can't select these two kinds of objects
>>> Q2.2, If Q1 says yes, select Notes firstly, then CTRL + A to select
>>> drawing objects, can select these two kinds of objects
>>> Q3, If can select these two kinds of objects, then Group them by the
>>> context memu, delete the grouped object,
>>> find that Notes have gone, but the red points on the top right of
>>> cell stay still
>>>
>>> Everyone, would you like giving me a hint?
>>> TIA!
>
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