On 11 June 2010 08:48, Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Marnie McCormack > <marnie.mccorm...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> I'm not sure what the best solution is, but I do know that I'm missing what >> the problem using one of the Apache projects for this work is ? >> >> It seems like there some context missing from this debate, possibly from >> discussions at the F2F. >> >> Bruce - can you elaborate on why other people might not want to work on AMQP >> under an Apache project but would want to work on it as another open source >> project and use an ASL license ? > > Why would someone who works on an AMQP broker implementation that is > not Qpid want to come to the Qpid project to contribute to an AMQP > protocol level client? If this project were hosted as a subproject to > Qpid, it would forever be associated with Qpid instead of being > neutral from any broker.
Moreover those people would not find it possible to commit without gaining committership to the relevant Apache project. I was talking this evening to one of the guys from RabbitMQ who would very much want to be involved in this - and I very much want to encourage this. I think we should see this idea as something that may be of interest to particular Qpid, ActiveMQ, Rabbit or other developers... not something that involves those projects in themselves. In the future those projects may decide to adopt work that is done in this space (or not)... but really what we are saying is that we feel like there are a number of people from different communities who feel like it would be worthwhile to have a go at this - and we're seeing how many other like minded folks there are. There are, of course, also likely to be developers in these communities to whom this is of no interest whatsoever. > >> It seems a little like double overhead for those already working on Qpid or >> ActiveMQ to have a third project in the loop, with different lists and >> process and all that. Having been around for a while I understand the >> overhead with Apache, but I'm also concerned that we haven't really talked >> about what we gain from a non-Apache project - what the gain from doing the >> core libraries somewhere else ? > > Because it lowers the barrier of participation and is not associated > with any particular AMQP impl. > +1 I think it was a great sign that so many people from different communities were willing to try to start up something like this - and obviously if there are more people out there that will be even better... I really want to do as much as possible to encourage this effort and lower the barriers of entry for anyone who is interested as much as possible -- Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation Project: http://qpid.apache.org Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscr...@qpid.apache.org
