On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 16:48 +0100, Gordon Sim wrote: > On 06/25/2012 11:55 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: > > It makes sense that the people who are interested in using proton also > > want to see a simplified API to get their users started with AMQP 1.0. > > It really gives them an immediate ROI for integrating the engine. They > > give their users very simple and easy access from the very broad variety > > of languages, platforms, and environments that the messenger API can > > support. > > What about the existing messaging API; does it not make sense for them > to consider that also for some cases?
Yes, assuming it supports 1.0. However there is really a lot of demand for, and good synergy when proton is sold with something very simplified. Something more scripting/web/mobile oriented where literally only one or two lines of code is enough to send or receive a message. One of the places where AMQP 1.0 shines is the cloudy/mobiley/web enabled scenarios, and in that space people expect to see something akin to a pub nub type API. > On 06/25/2012 06:30 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: > > The fundamental issue here is that Qpid now needs to serve two > > audiences. A very horizontal audience made up of pretty much anything > > that might ever want to speak AMQP, and a more specialized, vertical > > audience of people interested in a particular message broker. > > I certainly accept that distinction, but are you saying that the first > audience would/should only be interested in proton rather than the full > range of APIs on offer? No, I think there's more that we can and should offer, but I do think there needs to be a serious and real effort around interoperability with stuff outside of qpid for anything that we offer to that audience, and right now proton is ahead of the curve on that front as it was designed/developed with that in mind and has been tested from the beginning against external 1.0 implementations. I've also found that proton and messenger together make a very compelling story and are easy to promote and sell together and could be a very powerful tool for bootstrapping the AMQP 1.0 ecosystem, something at the core of the Qpid mission. It was with this in mind that I put together the proton site. I wanted to keep the story simple, so it doesn't go into all of the other 0-X qpid offerings, but I would hope as more and more stuff both inside and outside of qpid speaks AMQP 1.0 (either via proton or in general) we would link to them from the proton site as they are all things you could speak to if you integrate proton, and all part of the value you get from doing so. --Rafael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
