Ross, thanks for the feedback. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Ross Gardler <[email protected]>wrote:
> I'm a little out of touch with Rave as I'm busy elsewhere, as you > surmise many people in your thoughtful mail below. > > In general though it is normal for a community to go quiet > periodically. Things tend to happen in waves. When one individual gets > busy they motivate others to get busy simply through their actions. > > I'm never much of a fan of roadmaps being formally defined by a PMC. A > projects roadmap is set by the people with time to work on it at that > point in time. Putting a list of things that the PMC considers > important on a website doesn't make those things happen. That being > said, a little periodic re-evaluation of objectives and updating of > the website certainly doesn't hurt. For example, I noticed that the > home page still reflects the very high level roadmap that was defined > during at proposal to the incubator. Some of the items on the "future" > list have been implemented. Of course, I could have updated the home > page when I noticed this, but I didn't because I was too busy at the > time (and still am). > > If you have the time and the desire to define a roadmap that you think > is important and you wish to ask for feedback on roadmap then go for > it. However, personally, if I find I have some time for Rave I'll > probably spend that time just implementing what is at the top of my > personal agenda. > > Finally, with respect to your mail that has had no response, lazy > consensus means that no objections means agreement. I've reviewed your > mail but don't have any opinion on it since I have not reviewed or > tested your code. But you are a committer so I'm +0 on supporting your > recommendations (not +1 as I don't have the time top properly review). > If you want a little more explicit support for the proposed merge then > post a reply to your own mail saying "no feedback so I assume all is > good. I'm going to merge in the next few days". That will bring it > back to the top of peoples inboxes and possibly prompt more review. > Finally, once you have done the merge if it all goes wrong or someone > wants to object for a solid technical reason the changes can be rolled > back. > Most of the time I'm a huge fan of lazy consensus but in this case, given the impact of the change, I was trying to be a little more proactive about review. At this point though I will take your advice and just push forward. > > In summary, you are a committer. We operate a commit then review > policy here so don't be afraid to just get on with it :-) > > Ross > > On 25 October 2012 17:13, Chris Geer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Over the past couple months there has been a growing worry of mine that > we > > are loosing some momentum/cohesiveness as a team. As a metric, if you > look > > at the dev mailing list, the traffic for the past three months has been > > very low (September was awful). What finally spurred me to send this > > message was the fact that I sent an email [1] on October 13th, asking for > > some help reviewing a major change Matt and I had been working on and > > haven't gotten a single response. I know it's not a sexy change but it's > > something that people thought was a good idea when it was proposed a > while > > back. What I don't know is if the lack of response is because people are > > too busy, they don't care or they don't support the change but don't want > > to say that. The third option would concern me the most since we should > > feel free to provide feedback, both positive and negative. > > > > My suspicion is that people are just swamped at their day jobs and Rave > has > > taken back (maybe far back) seat to normal life which is understandable. > > With that knowledge though, as a PMC we should probably spend some time > > really coming up with a priority list of items we agree need to get done > > and bubble those to the top of the queue over the next few months. > Roadmap > > anyone? > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Chris > > > > [1] > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/rave-dev/201210.mbox/%3CCAFNO4Hh5LH37p9dD9P=W3MGQ=hecq-d4+lvqmstpihddfha...@mail.gmail.com%3E > > > > -- > Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > Programme Leader (Open Development) > OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >
