I agree.  Mind meld.

MG

On Feb 14, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Calum Shaw-Mackay wrote:

> 
> On 14 Feb 2011, at 05:29, MICHAEL MCGRADY wrote:
> 
>> I think that the original vision needs to be revisited and River needs to 
>> see if that vision has been realized or not.  There might be no point in 
>> going further.  Further and further and further is not the point.  The point 
>> today is what is the point?
> 
> I agree for the most part with this, but given that the Jini 2.1 starter kit 
> was released over 5 years ago, and we're now looking to 2.1.2, I believe that 
> without a clear roadmap, or indeed some ideas that can be explored,  Jini 
> will be going no further anyway. So I think my version is more like 'The 
> point today is what has been stalling us?', and I understand the upheaval and 
> the like with the move from Sun to Apache stewardship, but this alone cannot 
> account for nearly five years of near stagnation. 
> 
> The development arena of 5 years ago is different from the one of today, 
> irrespective of the original vision, there has to be a view of how we make 
> Jini and River relevant today, to drive adoption and new blood, and we cannot 
> do this unless at least some part of the community is willing to look 
> outside, see where the trends and issues are, and begin to discuss where 
> River can augment or help with those trends and issues, and then at some 
> point actually do it.
> 
> --Calum

Michael McGrady
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