Hi Tom,

Hi Tom,

Comment inline below.

On Sep 26, 2012, at 345PM, Tom Hobbs wrote:

> Actually, I find that very interesting.
> 
> Config via convention (with overrides) is mostly there, I think.  We just
> need to decide the convention and slot it in, so that's one hurdle.
> 
> From my uses of River, I can think of a couple of annotations - not
> necessarily the same ones - that would have been useful.  Lifecycle is
> certainly interesting, especially as you go up through the layers from pure
> River stuff into the business domain and what makes a service ready to do
> it's job.  The question the becomes, I suppose, if there is a service
> container, how does it hook in and what do those hooks look like?  Can we
> draw any standard hooks out and bake them straight into River?  (This
> conversation gives me deja vu.  ;-)
> 
> Gregg, does the service container you're working on have any of these kinds
> of hooks?  Can you see it fitting into your work anywhere?  What kind of
> help/support do you need?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Dennis Reedy <[email protected]>wrote:
> 

Consider even if lifecycle annotations are not pursued, IMO River really needs 
to address the other points I bring up:


>> As for people who are new to any technology, I think the most important
>> thing is to communicate concepts and knock down barriers for entry.
>> Additionally, the project needs to show how easy it is to get something
>> running. Perhaps not just get it running, but how to develop and test your
>> service. Right now the bar is way too high for anybody to create a project
>> using River that has full lifecycle support for:
>> 
>> 1. Dependency management
>> 2. Testing framework (not for River but for your services)
>> 3. Packaging and deployment
>> 
>> Once River can provide an approach for developers to easily develop,
>> start, test and deploy their code, how can anyone really expect an uptick
>> in use? 


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