Peter:

All other things equal, I’d like to keep the core of River free of external 
dependencies, so I’m trying to understand what custard-apple is for.

First, I wonder, since you are the author, is it used solely in River? and if 
so, if you wouldn’t like to just contribute the library to River so we can have 
an integrated source tree.  That would save us having to figure out how to 
handle the dependency and save you from having to maintain the library 
externally (unless of course there are other users that need it).  Alternately, 
perhaps commons-collections would be a good home, that would see a larger 
audience.

Second, I’m trying to understand what the driver is for usage.  For instance, I 
had a look in ServiceDiscoveryManager, and it looks like you’re using a 
custard-apple collection, but I don’t see why it’s needed over a 
ConcurrentHashMap.  Could you enlighten me?

Thanks,

Greg

> On Aug 10, 2015, at 7:53 AM, Peter <j...@zeus.net.au> wrote:
> 
> One more to add to the list to answer Greg's question, 
> ReggieTestNameServiceProvider was removed from the river qa test sources to 
> allow tests to run on platforms other than Sun's Jdk, such as J9, to prevent 
> build compile errors.
> 
> Again this library is only used for testing.
> 
> asm isn't required for downstream projects using Maven.  asm is used for 
> River's build for historical reasons to support classdep.
> 
> If users don't need the performance improvement that CombinerSecurityManager 
> provides, they won't require high-scale-lib.  CombinerSecurityManager avoids 
> duplicated security checks (from identical context) by weakly caching (by 
> caller context's) the result of security checks, this reduces unnecessary 
> network traffic caused by duplicated security checks.
> 
> Only custard-apple is required.
> 
> Peter.
> 
> On 10/08/2015 6:04 PM, Peter wrote:
>> Pat,
>> 
>> I don't have much time, but I'll assist you where I can.
>> 
>> First things first, you'll need a Unix environment.
>> 
>> I'd copy Dennis newly created branch to a 3.0 release branch, then run the 
>> qa test suite and jtreg test suite.
>> 
>> ant all.build
>> ant qa.run
>> cd ./qa
>> ant jtreg
>> cd ../
>> ant release
>> 
>> To answer Greg's question:
>> 
>>   The custard-apple library is available on Sourceforge, it's a
>>   Collections wrapper library that enables weak, soft and strong
>>   reference combinations in any java Collection implementation.  This
>>   library is required.  high-scale-lib is also required.
>> 
>>   Test code in the jtreg test suite depends on the bouncy castle
>>   library to provide Certificate Authority functionality to sign
>>   certificates.  All certificates in other branches have expired, I'm
>>   sure there are other people on the dev list would have experienced
>>   and be aware of these test failures, these tests pass on this
>>   suite.  This library isn't required by down stream developers.
>> 
>>   dnsjava is used in the qa test suite, it isn't required by down
>>   stream developers.
>> 
>>   animal sniffer was again used for testing api changes and isn't
>>   required for down stream development.
>> 
>>   Velocity was used by Sim and at least one other developer for
>>   configuration purposes, this library is optional.
>> 
>>   Libraries required by test suites should stay for testing purposes
>>   but aren't required by release artifacts.
>> 
>> 
>> Regaring the current trunk, there are contributions made by Sim (network and 
>> other improvements), after the stable branch point (chosen for qa-refactor) 
>> that need to be integrated back at some point.  The test failures after the 
>> trunk => qa-refactor branch point are latent concurrency bugs, they are not 
>> directly related to Sim's code.
>> 
>> This should help you get started...
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Peter.
>> 
>> On 10/08/2015 2:00 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>>> In that case, I'll take on the actual release manager role, and get going 
>>> on dealing with the dependency issue.
>>> 
>>> On 8/9/2015 8:38 PM, Greg Trasuk wrote:
>>>> Pat:
>>>> 
>>>> I can provide support and information for you.  But I do think we need to 
>>>> first sort out the dependencies question I pointed out earlier.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Greg Trasuk
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 9, 2015, at 9:58 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am going to include the lack of a release manager for 3.0 in the board 
>>>>> report, and assign myself an action item to fix it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At this point I think my best bet is to appeal on the 
>>>>> d...@community.apache.org mailing list for a mentor who is familiar with 
>>>>> the release process to guide me through the steps. However, I am very 
>>>>> open to alternative suggestions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/8/2015 8:22 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>>>>>> Peter? Anyone?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have time, but not the knowledge. I would be willing to be release
>>>>>> manager provided at least one person who knows how it is done will
>>>>>> provide a lot of step-by-step guidance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/8/2015 7:21 AM, Bryan Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>> Not really I am afraid.  I am quite heavily committed on several 
>>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>> right now.  I have done applications development with river, but I am 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> familiar with the historical river project structure in any depth and
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> never done development on river itself. And I have never participated
>>>>>>> in an
>>>>>>> Apache project release.  I am just not a good candidate for this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Bryan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 8, 2015, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bryan,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are you able and willing to act as release manager for 3.0?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 11:56 AM, Bryan Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Just release to encourage people to use it. +1 on release.for me.
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015 2:55 PM, "Patricia Shanahan" <p...@acm.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Would it be useful to tag it as a 3.0 beta release initially, or
>>>>>>>>> just go
>>>>>>>>>> to 3.0 and add point releases as needed?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I will vote in favor of releasing it either way.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 9:55 AM, Bryan Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Or just release it.  If problems emerge, people can report them and
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> can get fixed.  There is a known reliable release now.  Let the
>>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>>> vote by migrating their code.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Bryan
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I can tell, the main remaining release blocker it
>>>>>>>>>>> getting more
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> people to test in more environments. Perhaps we should put out an
>>>>>>>>>>>> appeal
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> u...@river.apache.org?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 9:33 AM, Bryan Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe it would be good to say a few words about the release goals
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I.e., 3.0 provides a deep refactoring that address performance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> concurrency
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and scaling issues.  Significant progress has been made towards 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release target.  X new tests have been developed for this release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> remaining blockers for a release are ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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