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> On Jan 11, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote: > > Hi Carlos, > > First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's changes. > > Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in Royale > sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect. Agreed! > > I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to save > much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us. But, IMO, > the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of our > code. Agreed! > I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to align with > the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the marketing > site is something that should be managed outside of the project. I disagree. The expectation is that a project is vendor neutral and moving it outside the project would mean the PMC would be offloading it’s responsibility. Regards, Dave > > Thanks, > -Alex > > On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira" > <carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrov...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi Om, >> >> when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can >> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited. >> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as our >> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited. >> >> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown. >> >> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will end in >> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc... >> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm very >> happy. >> >> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to >> update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have >> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and we >> have that with GitHub) >> >> >> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com>: >> >>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content, patches >>> and PRs. >>> >>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from >>> Github >>> urls. For example >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres >>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C >>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7 >>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyDSDo6aX50kfXkU >>> %3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can >>> be on >>> WP. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Om >>> >>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things >>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes, >>> and >>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication >>>> >>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for >>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs) >>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is >>> to >>> : >>>> >>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version) >>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme >>> updates >>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on) >>>> 3.- commit and push >>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication >>>> >>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>: >>>> >>>>> Hi - >>>>> >>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content >>> updates. >>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content. >>>>> >>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make >>>> changes. >>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later >>> either >>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process, >>> or >>>> you >>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then >>>> published. >>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do. >>>>> >>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to >>> create >>> an >>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS >>> feed >>>> into >>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos, >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really >>> good. >>>> We >>>>>> could apply them on our self. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Piotr >>>>>> >>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira >>> <carlosrov...@apache.org>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Om, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin >>> and >>>>> then >>>>>>> exported and published. >>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP >>>> backend >>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some >>> ways to >>>> do >>>>>>> that if there's enough interest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala < >>> bigosma...@gmail.com >>>>> : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull >>> Request >>>> to >>>>>>>> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c >>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad >>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FAmD >>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0. >>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how >>> the >>>>>>> website >>>>>>>> is being deployed? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Om >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira < >>>>> carlosrov...@apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post >>>>> directly >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread >>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or >>> something >>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki < >>>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com >>>>>> : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that >>> file >>> to >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull >>>>>>> request >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c >>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad >>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FAmD >>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :) >>>>>>>>>> Piotr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore >>> <cottag...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to >>> create >>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and >>> share >>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>> Can >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < >>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot >>> it >>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list. >>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro >>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C >>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7 >>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3ReH6Vu4f41WSFs >>> %3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore < >>> cottag...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. 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t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ado >>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178dec >>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXcA%2F >>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < >>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira < >>>>>>>>> carlosrov...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> 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