I have added some notes about the FAQ page. Sometime this weekend I will review the document and mark as resolved all issues that are, um, resolved. This link gives you edit permissions to the page: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11AcoTH9U40WhRt3_8vEReXi29tZrRS5_Wx7xQ1QBUcU/edit?usp=sharing
a On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected]> wrote: > Guys, > > There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the website. If I > have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME > etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile some > "Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing > playerglobal.swc. > > That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that user have > to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which helps to do > that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml". > > - As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the > folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder} > - Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies > "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml" > - Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable > > Where on the website such information do you think should be placed ? > > Thanks, Piotr > > > 2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>: > > > Hi Dave, > > > > Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say, this task > > needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components work as > > good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to change > visuals > > to adapt to what they need!) > > :) > > > > 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <[email protected]>: > > > > > Hi - > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Alex > > > > > > > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > >> Hi Carlos, > > > >> > > > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's > > > changes. > > > >> > > > > > > > > thanks for your words :) > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in > > > Royale > > > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the eye of > > > > people too soon. > > > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of thinking > of > > > > release web ASAP :) > > > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain ;) > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to > save > > > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us. But, > > > IMO, > > > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of > our > > > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to align > > > with > > > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the > > marketing > > > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the project. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on what > > is > > > > really important. > > > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to see > in > > > > Royale. We need that ASAP. > > > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for another, > > > it'd > > > > be a useless work. > > > > > > > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working good, > and > > > > people like Royale. > > > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site, > since > > > the > > > > important task are done. > > > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important > (first > > > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...) > > > > > > > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others) to > > help > > > > with website in the same way we do here > > > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing list, > > > Github, > > > > or other tool? The important thing is that > > > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site repo. > > That's > > > > is what Apache ask us to do. > > > > > > > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can > still > > > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes > > > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts and > > more, > > > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources > > > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could be > > done > > > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision > > > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you make > in > > > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight... > > > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with > > notepad. > > > > > > > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are here > to > > > make > > > > Apache Royale! > > > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same result > we > > > have > > > > now with something made by hand by us. > > > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of royale > to > > > make > > > > website, is about to compite with years > > > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make > websites. > > > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc.. > > > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a > royale > > > web > > > > site that compites with the actual one, > > > > but maybe in the future. > > > > > > > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time, thanks > to > > > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch > > > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if that > > works > > > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing with > > > Andrew > > > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about content...is > > about > > > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since, in > the > > > > end, > > > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech that > > in > > > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in some > > years > > > if > > > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach that > > goal. > > > > > > > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want you > to > > > try > > > > to replicate the website in Royale. > > > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I > think, > > > but > > > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do. > > > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is to > > focus > > > > on themeing and UI set. > > > > > > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If Royale > > > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> -Alex > > > >> > > > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "[email protected] on behalf of Carlos > > > Rovira" > > > >> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hi Om, > > > >>> > > > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see if we > > can > > > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited. > > > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual > > as > > > our > > > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited. > > > >>> > > > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown. > > > >>> > > > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will > > > end in > > > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc... > > > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So > I'm > > > very > > > >>> happy. > > > >>> > > > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way > to > > > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we > > have > > > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs > (and > > > we > > > >>> have that with GitHub) > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala < > [email protected] > > >: > > > >>> > > > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content, > > > patches > > > >>>> and PRs. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files > from > > > >>>> Github > > > >>>> urls. For example > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres > > > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui% > > > 40adobe.com > > > >> %7C > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >> cee1%7C0%7 > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD > > > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>> > > > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) > > can > > > >>>> be on > > > >>>> WP. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thoughts? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Om > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected] > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Hi, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check > > > things > > > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all > > > changes, > > > >>>> and > > > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask > for > > > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs) > > > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the > process > > is > > > >>>> to > > > >>>> : > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version) > > > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme > > > >>>> updates > > > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on) > > > >>>>> 3.- commit and push > > > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to > > do. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thanks > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <[email protected]>: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Hi - > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content > > > >>>> updates. > > > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to > make > > > >>>>> changes. > > > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update. > Later > > > >>>> either > > > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build > > process, > > > >>>> or > > > >>>>> you > > > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then > > > >>>>> published. > > > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to > > > >>>> create > > > >>>> an > > > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS > > > >>>> feed > > > >>>>> into > > > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Regards, > > > >>>>>> Dave > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < > > > >>>> [email protected] > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Carlos, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really > > > >>>> good. > > > >>>>> We > > > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira > > > >>>> <[email protected]>: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Om, > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through > > admin > > > >>>> and > > > >>>>>> then > > > >>>>>>>> exported and published. > > > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in > WP > > > >>>>> backend > > > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some > > > >>>> ways to > > > >>>>> do > > > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala < > > > >>>> [email protected] > > > >>>>>> : > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull > > > >>>> Request > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site& > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58% > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=% > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA > > > >> mD > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0. > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of > how > > > >>>> the > > > >>>>>>>> website > > > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed? > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>>>>>> Om > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira < > > > >>>>>> [email protected] > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :) > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and > post > > > >>>>>> directly > > > >>>>>>>>> in > > > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or > > > >>>> something > > > >>>>>>>> like > > > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google > > drive...) > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks! > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki < > > > >>>>> [email protected] > > > >>>>>>> : > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that > > > >>>> file > > > >>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>> some > > > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make > > pull > > > >>>>>>>> request > > > >>>>>>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c > > > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site& > > > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad > > > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58% > > > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=% > > > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA > > > >> mD > > > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :) > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore > > > >>>> <[email protected]>: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer > to > > > >>>> create > > > >>>>>>>>>> table > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and > > > >>>> share > > > >>>>>>>> that. > > > >>>>>>>>>> Can > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some > screenshot > > > >>>> it > > > >>>>>>>> can > > > >>>>>>>>> be > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1] > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro > > > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui% > > > 40adobe.com > > > >> %7C > > > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >> cee1%7C0%7 > > > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R > > > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs > > > >>>> %3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore < > > > >>>> [email protected]> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. > Is > > > >>>>>>>>> someone > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02% > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58% > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >> c > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata= > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc > > > >> A%2F > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> www.avast.com&data=02% > > > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a > > > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b > > > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763& > > > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI > > > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas > > > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02% > > > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado > > > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58% > > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >> c > > > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata= > > zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc > > > >> A%2F > > > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :) > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira < > > > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> : > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :) > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me% > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com% > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408 > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > > > >> 7C63651220757758276 > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon: > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02 > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122 > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv > > > >>>> ed=0 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02 > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122 > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv > > > >>>> ed=0>* > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore > > > 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>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon: > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02 > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122 > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv > > > >>>> ed=0 > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02 > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122 > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv > > > >>>> ed=0>* > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me% > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com% > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408 > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > > > >> 7C63651220757758276 > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me% > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com% > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408 > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > > > >> 7C63651220757758276 > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Patreon: > > > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02 > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122 > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv > > > >>>> ed=0 > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat > > > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com > > > >> %7Ca1f216958a02 > > > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > > > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122 > > > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf > > > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv > > > >>>> ed=0>* > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> -- > > > >>>>> Carlos Rovira > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me% > > > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com% > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408 > > > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > > > >> 7C63651220757758276 > > > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> Carlos Rovira > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2 > > > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com% > > > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5 > > > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > > > >> 7C636512207577582763&s > > > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0 > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Carlos Rovira > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Carlos Rovira > > http://about.me/carlosrovira > > > > > > -- > > Piotr Zarzycki > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>* > -- Andrew Wetmore http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
