Hi,

I picked "Foundation" because "Basic" was taken and I was thinking of
"foundation classes". I guess I should have been more open on the list
that I was creating a new set of components. I did this as a fun task for
myself while I was discharging all of the thoughts on Royale Basic in my
head about these years in FlexJS/Royale and I wanted to preserve those
thoughts. I did not intend this to be disruptive in any way; I didn't
think people would be obliged to look at it right away (or even at all if
they didn't feel interested).

Perhaps it is best if I rename the repository. How do you feel about
"royale-simple"? I think "simple" is good because the classes are not that
complex. 

I have been asked why I thought this was necessary to do and if I looked
at the MDL project to see about leveraging it. I did not look at MDL (I
did follow MDL when it was being developed but it has been a long while),
but I have today gone back and looked at some key classes.

First, this project was not necessary to fill any deficiencies in Royale.
This was, as I said above, just a fun project for me. I like to write
code. There's something very creative about starting with a nearly blank
slate and producing something, even if something like already exists.

One main thing I did that is different from MDL and Basic, is that I made
everything inherit from a common base class - UIComponent. In Basic (and
MDL), buttons are different due to their SWF-side implementation. I made
Buttons a UIComponent and I made the Application a UIComponent as well. I
also enhanced IUIBase and added other properties. I also wanted to give it
some Flex-like appeal so I kept some of the same class names that I liked;
I was inspired by revisiting Flex recently.

There is nothing wrong with what we have created in Royale. I think it is
a testament to its design that a new framework can be added without much
work and demonstrates to people that they can make their own frameworks
using Apache Royale as their starting point.

I'll wait a few days and if there are no objections, I'll rename
"royale-foundation" to "royale-simple".

Thanks,
Peter


On 4/22/18, 7:55 PM, "Niclas Hedhman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>If this goes forward, I hope to see a different name... Apache Royale
>Foundation sounds like some daughter/sibling organization of Apache
>Software Foundation.
>
>I.e. I understand that "Foundation" here is similar to that of Microsoft
>Foundation Classes, but due to ASF's name, I think it is unfortunate if
>this name persist.
>
>My 2 cent
>Niclas
>
>On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 00:37 Peter Ent <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As many of you know, over five years ago Adobe Systems donated Flex to
>>the
>> Apache Foundation. My time on this mission is drawing to a close in a
>> couple of weeks. I am actively trying to find a new position within
>>Adobe.
>> I hope to continue to participate in the Royale project, but that may be
>> determined by my next employer/manager.
>>
>> In the meantime, I decided to look back through all my notes and ideas
>>and
>> I created a "thesis" project to express what I've learned and to leave
>>my
>> ideas out there for others to use.
>>
>> I've created what I call "Apache Royale Foundation" - an alternative to
>> the Basic project in Royale. I have this stored in a public
>>repository[1],
>> separate from royale-asjs. The Foundation project (in
>>frameworks/projects)
>> would be a sibling to Basic, but I needed to make a few changes to the
>>Core
>> project and I did not want take the chance of messing up the royale-asjs
>> repository, even with a separate branch. I just felt it was safer to
>>make a
>> new public repo using my Apache Github account.
>>
>> The royale-foundation repo is a downsized version of royale-asjs. I took
>> only a handful of projects from frameworks (e.g., Core, Network) that I
>> thought I could make use of either directly in Foundation or in
>>examples. I
>> set up the commits to first put in the downsized code, then changes to
>> Core, then the main Foundation classes. This way you can see what
>>changes
>> were made to Core (mainly to IUIBase and a just a few others).
>>
>> For a more detailed explanation of Foundation, I wrote a Wiki page[2] to
>> go with the code. I really wanted to see what writing an
>> almost-from-scratch framework involved. I decided to ignore the Flash
>> Player and concentrate exclusively on HTML/JS. While royale-foundation
>>will
>> build something on the SWF side, it will either not run or produce just
>>a
>> blank window. This was a fun project to fill the time and improve my
>> JavaScript and CSS skills while looking for my next challenge.
>>
>> I could not have done this without the Core project and the work of
>> everyone who has contributed to Royale. There are a lot of background
>> pieces that go into make a framework viable and I made use of them as
>>much
>> as possible.
>>
>> I suggest starting with the Wiki[2] before looking at the code[1]. Once
>> you do get the code, you should be able to build it using ANT (I did not
>> modify the maven pom files yet) and then build the examples.
>>
>> [1] Apache Royale Foundation Repo:
>> 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
>>om%2Fpentapache%2Froyale-foundation&data=02%7C01%7Cpent%40adobe.com%7C5cf
>>7d87b0ef34ce3818c08d5a8aca1d9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
>>7C636600381788184543&sdata=gpllo0jYdNsp%2FWQm0R7Lxi57l4muoyWX7Tf9YKZaF%2F
>>Y%3D&reserved=0
>>
>> [2] Apache Royale Foundation Wiki (in the Repo):
>> 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
>>om%2Fpentapache%2Froyale-foundation%2Fwiki&data=02%7C01%7Cpent%40adobe.co
>>m%7C5cf7d87b0ef34ce3818c08d5a8aca1d9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7
>>C0%7C0%7C636600381788184543&sdata=MtF1eGblWYuSi%2F3nBxEulYrJg%2Fz5u6FliZt
>>2SjT%2F0po%3D&reserved=0
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter Ent
>>
>>

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