Going to the Hello World stage - yes we definitely shorten this path and
whoever I meet he is able to do such, but they are getting lost moving just
a bit forward.

This is mostly due to two things:
1) Users straightforward thinking that Royale is exactly same as Flex, but
it is not - we have similarities
2) They cannot find straightforward examples nor documentation to get
enough knowledge

I don't want to dive deeper, but apart of what I have said above we are
pretty good.

Thanks,
Piotr

pt., 24 maj 2019 o 12:34 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]> napisał(a):

> Ok Piotr,
> so talking now only about "SDK user" case you think new users coming like
> Adrian or others are currently ok and are successful using (I suppose) the
> latest nightly build? If that's true is a success for Royale without doubt.
>
> thanks
>
> El vie., 24 may. 2019 a las 10:31, Piotr Zarzycki (<
> [email protected]>) escribió:
>
> > Hi Carlos,
> >
> > Good example of user was Adrian who have started look into the Royale. He
> > wasn't even thinking about going into the frameworks code, so his first
> > attempt was - how to use it and build multiplatform application? Not how
> to
> > build framework and fix it? - cause if you coming to technology and have
> to
> > fix it in the first place to be able to work with - what kind of
> impression
> > do you have about it ?
> >
> > I believe only fraction of users whether they will be ActionScript or non
> > AS developers would go deeper into framework - And even if they are I
> > expect those will be people who definitely won't be afraid made some
> custom
> > setup to get to the point.
> >
> > Above conclusions were coming not from Adrian's case only, believe me :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Piotr
> >
> > pt., 24 maj 2019 o 10:14 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>
> > napisał(a):
> >
> > > Hi Piotr,
> > >
> > > yes you'r right. But we want both, users and developers.
> > > Right now users are covered with SDK nightly builds, and we just need
> to
> > > get official SDKs generated easily (hopefully thanks to the current
> Alex
> > > effort) in short period of time (maybe monthly?)
> > > The other option is what we're covering here as you stated: developers.
> > The
> > > problem was that a dev that wants to join us and use maven was not able
> > to
> > > do that some days ago, and we need to continue improving this (and sdk)
> > > builds and instructions since is what lots of people said us few weeks
> > ago
> > > when we proposed a 1.0 and folks say that we should first concentrate
> in
> > > make the technology accesible, documented and easy to start with. We
> need
> > > to go over and over and over until we get it. I think is the only way
> so
> > > people coming could finaly say "trying royale was a breeze for me" :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > El vie., 24 may. 2019 a las 10:03, Piotr Zarzycki (<
> > > [email protected]>) escribió:
> > >
> > > > Hey Guys,
> > > >
> > > > Everything depends on what kind of user some of you wanted to get. I
> > see
> > > > that there is and attempt in this thread of getting Developers who
> > would
> > > > like to work on framework - however maybe it is easier to attract non
> > > > framework developers, people who wanted to use Royale, build
> > application
> > > > without touching framework code.
> > > >
> > > > I think additionally that building such a big framework will always
> > have
> > > > some difficult instructions and quite often manual steps to perform.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Piotr
> > > >
> > > > pt., 24 maj 2019 o 09:55 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>
> > > > napisał(a):
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > just a point to add about my initial setup. I assume the config
> for a
> > > > > newbie is based on the wiki, so he has the environment vars setup
> > (is a
> > > > > requerimient for now), but he doesn't have maven repository filled
> > > since
> > > > he
> > > > > never tried to build.
> > > > >
> > > > > But one thing is clear, all process is very complex and filled with
> > > many
> > > > > points that is our main problem to get traction. People coming is
> > > unable
> > > > to
> > > > > enter Royale world unless is perseverant and recover from various
> > > failed
> > > > > tries.
> > > > > Hope it would be some way to simplify all this to a minimum. Maybe
> > the
> > > > only
> > > > > JS option, that will be hopefully what 90% of users would want from
> > > use,
> > > > > could a super easy process, simple and with very few internal
> process
> > > > that
> > > > > ensures folks can succeed in 99% of cases. In the other hand, if
> they
> > > > want
> > > > > SWF stuff, then we have all the complexity with flash player,
> > debugger,
> > > > and
> > > > > other adobe stuff that is an additional set of things with other
> > > > > requerimients
> > > > >
> > > > > About videos, is ok for me to do both. The objective is to do 2-3
> min
> > > > > videos that will make a difference. Ultra short videos with just
> > > straight
> > > > > to the core info are proven very useful, so we need something in
> that
> > > way
> > > > > if we want people to join Royale.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > El vie., 24 may. 2019 a las 4:40, Alex Harui
> > (<[email protected]
> > > > >)
> > > > > escribió:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Over in Ant, there are some rules (at least for now).  I don't
> > > remember
> > > > > > exactly, but I think it is:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Either define all 3 variables (PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME, AIR_HOME,
> > > > > > FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER) or don't define any of them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nobody has had the time to make the other combinations work.  The
> > > > > > rationale is that either someone took the time to set up the
> Adobe
> > > > stuff
> > > > > or
> > > > > > they didn't.  And so, when long-time committers like yourself and
> > > > Carlos
> > > > > > are testing, you may not be testing in a true newbie's
> > configuration
> > > as
> > > > > we
> > > > > > wouldn't expect them to have any environment variables set, while
> > you
> > > > and
> > > > > > Carlos probably have at least some of them set since that used to
> > be
> > > > the
> > > > > > requirement.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The same may be true for Maven.  I still haven't found time to
> > look,
> > > > > > hoping one of you will eventually understand the logic behind
> this
> > > > stuff
> > > > > > and figure it out so I can keep making progress on the release
> > > > > automation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the TestAdapters, IIRC, some of the compiler tests can run
> > without
> > > > > > Adobe artifacts and/or Flash Player Debugger.  A SWF is built,
> then
> > > > > > SWFDump'd (but never launched in a Flash Player) and the dump is
> > > > compared
> > > > > > against a reference dump.  I know AntTestAdapter does this, I
> don't
> > > > > > remember if MavenTestAdapter does, hence what I wrote about no
> > point
> > > in
> > > > > > running tests in JS-Only if there are no SWF artifacts and/or no
> > > Adobe
> > > > > > artifacts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, IMO, either define all 3 environment variables for Ant or
> don't
> > > > > define
> > > > > > any.  And for Maven, the same might be true.  If you want to
> spend
> > > the
> > > > > time
> > > > > > getting other combinations to work, fine, but IMO the two main
> > > > scenarios
> > > > > > are 1) You have the Adobe stuff and want SWF artifacts, or 2) You
> > > don't
> > > > > > have the Adobe stuff nor any environment variables and don’t want
> > SWF
> > > > > > artifacts.  Maybe we don't have to skip tests in those setups.  I
> > > don't
> > > > > > know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > -Alex
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/23/19, 3:36 PM, "Greg Dove" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     'If our tests require Flash, then there is no point in
> running
> > > them
> > > > > if
> > > > > >     there are no SWF artifacts.'
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     This is just an info dump, in case the following is useful:
> > > > > >     (short version) My failing combination is a)
> > FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER
> > > > is
> > > > > >     defined and b) PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME is not defined and/or local
> m2
> > > > does
> > > > > > not
> > > > > >     contain playerglobal swc
> > > > > >     But this is just with standard maven build, not with profiles
> > or
> > > > > > anything
> > > > > >     specified.  Also on windows, in case that matters in any way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     (Details)
> > > > > >     I am still getting to grips with 'profiles' in maven. I
> > probably
> > > > read
> > > > > > about
> > > > > >     that at one point and have used them, but will go back to
> > refresh
> > > > my
> > > > > >     knowledge (now that I understand more of the basics).
> > > > > >     I did observe that the MavenTestAdapter has a getPlayerGlobal
> > > > method
> > > > > > which
> > > > > >     looks for the swc in the tests for compiler (not
> compiler-jx),
> > > this
> > > > > > still
> > > > > >     tries to run the tests if playerglobal is missing (and
> assuming
> > > the
> > > > > > debug
> > > > > >     player is available), but the player has bad bytecode (e.g.
> > error
> > > > > > dialogs
> > > > > >     like TypeError: Error #2023: Class
> > > ASDateTests1933741105634631672$
> > > > > must
> > > > > >     inherit from Sprite to link to the root.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     When I look at getPlayerglobal() inside MavenTestAdapter I do
> > see
> > > > > > something
> > > > > >     a little confusing (to me).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     It checks to see if PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME is defined. If it is
> not,
> > > it
> > > > > > bails
> > > > > >     and returns null. This will cause an error later in testing
> > > > > >     But PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME does not appear to be used to find the
> > > > > > playerglobal
> > > > > >     swc anywhere else, so this check may not even be relevant.
> > > > > >     if PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME is defined, then it ignores it and looks
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > swc
> > > > > >     in System.getProperty("mavenLocalRepoDir"). This is why I
> think
> > > it
> > > > > > finds it
> > > > > >     after it has been cached in local m2 and perhaps why things
> > > > continue
> > > > > to
> > > > > >     work when it is removed from the pom dependencies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     However, if I unset FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER env var then the
> tests
> > > > phase
> > > > > >     passes and the build continues on to completion.
> > > > > >     So my failing combination is a) FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER is
> defined
> > > and
> > > > > b)
> > > > > >     PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME is not defined and/or local m2 does not
> > contain
> > > > > >     playerglobal swc
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 7:33 AM Alex Harui
> > > > <[email protected]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     > I guess I am not making a clear statement.  I understand
> you
> > > are
> > > > > > trying to
> > > > > >     > help others, but unless you have tested from scratch with
> > both
> > > > > > generating
> > > > > >     > SWF artifacts and not generating SWF artifacts then you
> > haven't
> > > > > > actually
> > > > > >     > helped everyone, just those who want the same set of
> > artifacts
> > > > you
> > > > > > are
> > > > > >     > expecting.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     > I would not expect any solution to include an Adobe
> artifact
> > > > > without
> > > > > > using
> > > > > >     > a profile to include it.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     > You might need two videos, one for generating SWF artifacts
> > and
> > > > one
> > > > > > for
> > > > > >     > not.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     > If our tests require Flash, then there is no point in
> running
> > > > them
> > > > > if
> > > > > >     > there are no SWF artifacts.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     > Thanks,
> > > > > >     > -Alex
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     > On 5/23/19, 11:06 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <
> > [email protected]
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     Hi Alex,
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     I'm not getting this working only for me, in fact my
> > > > motivation
> > > > > > was
> > > > > >     > exactly
> > > > > >     >     the opposite. The final motivation is to able to do a
> > short
> > > > > > video to
> > > > > >     > post
> > > > > >     >     on an Apache Royale youtube channel, since is something
> > > many,
> > > > > > many
> > > > > >     > people
> > > > > >     >     requested. And something I think will give us more
> users
> > > and
> > > > > > exposure.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     I was working without problem each day. I tried to
> remove
> > > > > > repository
> > > > > >     > folder
> > > > > >     >     to simulate a "day 0" like a new user to see if all was
> > > > > working.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > >     > result
> > > > > >     >     was it was failing.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     Now with a dependency added in compiler's pom and a
> > profile
> > > > > > added in
> > > > > >     > the
> > > > > >     >     wiki instructions, I was able to build from scratch.
> > > Other's
> > > > > can
> > > > > > try
> > > > > >     > this
> > > > > >     >     to proof is a solution for anyone.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     IOW, If a new user tries the wiki steps some days ago
> > he'd
> > > > > found
> > > > > > royale
> > > > > >     >     didn't build, and fails with the error exposed here,
> and
> > > will
> > > > > get
> > > > > >     > stuck.
> > > > > >     >     Now, hopefully he will get it working.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     For me is ok, all you say (maybe the only thing I don't
> > > agree
> > > > > is
> > > > > > put
> > > > > >     >     skipTests to false as an official way to make maven
> build
> > > > work
> > > > > >     > officially,
> > > > > >     >     since in maven tests are mandatory, and you must
> opt-out,
> > > > with
> > > > > a
> > > > > >     > profile o
> > > > > >     >     via command line, but official build should work with
> > > normal
> > > > > > tests in a
> > > > > >     >     first execution).
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     About having a repository or not: This should not
> matter,
> > > but
> > > > > > the fact
> > > > > >     > is
> > > > > >     >     it currently does, independently of what any of us
> want.
> > I,
> > > > as
> > > > > > you,
> > > > > >     > would
> > > > > >     >     want the simplest way to build, that could be always
> the
> > > > same,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > >     > there's
> > > > > >     >     a difference in a first maven build of royale against
> the
> > > > > > subsequent
> > > > > >     >     builds, that can be simplified (removing the -s
> > settings...
> > > > and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >     >     -Pprofile..). I didn't design the process, but is what
> we
> > > > have
> > > > > > now. So
> > > > > >     > is
> > > > > >     >     important to test against an empty repository folder,
> > > unless
> > > > we
> > > > > > change
> > > > > >     > the
> > > > > >     >     build process and get it more simpler, what I don't
> > expect
> > > to
> > > > > > happen
> > > > > >     >     anytime soon, since all of us have many things on plate
> > > right
> > > > > > now.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     I think we all understand the goals, and that we have
> two
> > > > sets
> > > > > of
> > > > > >     > outputs.
> > > > > >     >     Right now, I only know how to get one of them. If
> there's
> > > > other
> > > > > > one you
> > > > > >     >     know you can post it here and I can put on wiki, or
> > > directly
> > > > > > modify
> > > > > >     > wiki
> > > > > >     >     page that is the official one. If you can do the
> second,
> > it
> > > > > > would be
> > > > > >     > great
> > > > > >     >     since it will be more accurate to what you have in
> mind.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     If you have no time fo now what we can do is:
> > > > > >     >     2
> > > > > >     >     a) I can reintroduce the "-Putils" line in the wiki as
> > > > > something
> > > > > > to do
> > > > > >     > in a
> > > > > >     >     concrete case, since right now (at the time we are
> > writing
> > > > > > this), as
> > > > > >     > you
> > > > > >     >     posted is important in a concrete situation, but not in
> > > > > building
> > > > > > from
> > > > > >     >     scratch (for now until your changes will be merged).
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     b) As soon as you get your branch working and merged in
> > > > > develop,
> > > > > > you
> > > > > >     > should
> > > > > >     >     change the wiki to conform to the needs of the changes
> > you
> > > > will
> > > > > >     > introduce
> > > > > >     >     in your branch. I'll be interested in give a hand here
> > and
> > > > test
> > > > > > it
> > > > > >     > againts
> > > > > >     >     an empty repo, and from a Mac, and help to refine the
> > > process
> > > > > > and the
> > > > > >     > wiki
> > > > > >     >     if needed.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     About the planned video, since is a time consuming work
> > > maybe
> > > > > > better to
> > > > > >     >     postpone until your work is merged so I can create one
> > that
> > > > > > doesn't get
> > > > > >     >     obsolete in few days.
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     It's ok for you?
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     thanks
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     El jue., 23 may. 2019 a las 18:29, Alex Harui
> > > > > >     > (<[email protected]>)
> > > > > >     >     escribió:
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     > On 5/23/19, 3:04 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > >     > wrote:
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     Hi Alex,
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     El jue., 23 may. 2019 a las 3:49, Alex Harui
> > > > > >     > (<[email protected]
> > > > > >     >     > >)
> > > > > >     >     >     escribió:
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     > Before we go too far in any one direction, I
> may
> > > not
> > > > be
> > > > > > able to
> > > > > >     >     > respond
> > > > > >     >     >     > fully to this thread today as there seems to
> be a
> > > lot
> > > > > to
> > > > > > catch
> > > > > >     > up
> > > > > >     >     > on, but
> > > > > >     >     >     > let me try to summarize the goals of the Maven
> > > build.
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     > 1) There are some helper jars
> > (compiler-build-tools
> > > > and
> > > > > >     >     >     > compiler-jburg-types).  They are built by the
> > > "utils"
> > > > > >     > profile.  They
> > > > > >     >     >     > haven't changed in develop, but they will
> change
> > in
> > > > > > 0.9.6.
> > > > > >     > They've
> > > > > >     >     > been
> > > > > >     >     >     > changed in the release_practice branch.  So
> folks
> > > > will
> > > > > > need to
> > > > > >     > use
> > > > > >     >     > the
> > > > > >     >     >     > "utils" profile whenever we (rarely) change
> those
> > > > jars.
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     Ok, so we should put in wiki that utils profile
> is
> > > > needed
> > > > > > for
> > > > > >     > that
> > > > > >     >     > case,
> > > > > >     >     >     but not for "initial" build case. I'm worried to
> > try
> > > to
> > > > > > simplify
> > > > > >     >     >     instructions and process to minumun needs to
> avoid
> > > new
> > > > > > comers
> > > > > >     >     > confusion.
> > > > > >     >     >     So, I'll mention utils profile as a special case
> to
> > > > > > execute when
> > > > > >     >     > needed.
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     > As soon as I merge release_practice into develop, you
> > > will
> > > > > > need to
> > > > > >     > use the
> > > > > >     >     > utils profile to build from scratch.
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     > 2) Adobe will probably never publish official
> > > > > > playerglobal on
> > > > > >     > Maven.
> > > > > >     >     >     > There is a whole bunch of logic in the
> Mavenizer
> > to
> > > > > > address
> > > > > >     > licensing
> > > > > >     >     >     > acceptance issues.
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     For what we discussed in the thread, seems
> > > playerglobal
> > > > > is
> > > > > >     > already on
> > > > > >     >     > maven
> > > > > >     >     >     official repos, so my guest is we are served with
> > > that
> > > > > and
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > >     > need
> > > > > >     >     > adobe
> > > > > >     >     >     host it in a maven repo.
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     > Adobe has not given permission to distribute
> > playerglobal
> > > > in
> > > > > > this
> > > > > >     > way so
> > > > > >     >     > we cannot use it.
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     > 3) IIRC, the most recent changes were to allow
> > the
> > > > > Maven
> > > > > > build
> > > > > >     > to
> > > > > >     >     > work
> > > > > >     >     >     > without requiring SWF versions of artifacts and
> > > > > probably
> > > > > >     >     >     > playerglobal/airglobal.  So, adding hard
> > > requirements
> > > > > to
> > > > > >     >     > playerglobal will
> > > > > >     >     >     > defeat this capability unless those
> dependencies
> > > are
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >     >     > appropriate
> > > > > >     >     >     > Maven profile.
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     Right now we need to do this:
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     mvn -s settings-template.xml clean install
> > > > > >     > -Pgenerate-swcs-for-swf
> > > > > >     >     >     so this means something is not working ok in a
> > clean
> > > > > > environment
> > > > > >     > for
> > > > > >     >     > first
> > > > > >     >     >     build/install?
> > > > > >     >     >     For now, the current instructions works, but if
> > > that's
> > > > > the
> > > > > > case,
> > > > > >     > we
> > > > > >     >     > should
> > > > > >     >     >     try to fix this in the future, although seems
> this
> > is
> > > > not
> > > > > > urgent
> > > > > >     > while
> > > > > >     >     >     people is capable of build Royale in the current
> > way.
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     > The goal for Maven, like the goal for the Ant builds,
> > is
> > > to
> > > > > not
> > > > > >     > require
> > > > > >     >     > Adobe artifacts and build JS-only versions.  Building
> > SWF
> > > > > > versions is
> > > > > >     >     > opt-in.  I'm not surprised there are bugs after these
> > > > > changes,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > >     > the
> > > > > >     >     > solutions should consider that there are two
> different
> > > sets
> > > > > of
> > > > > >     > output.
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     > 4) The CI builds (builds.a.o and
> > > apachroyalecibuild)
> > > > > are
> > > > > > good
> > > > > >     >     > reference
> > > > > >     >     >     > examples of Maven building things correctly on
> > > > Windows.
> > > > > > You
> > > > > >     > can
> > > > > >     >     > compare
> > > > > >     >     >     > your setup and console output to those builds.
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     I was building without problem and still can
> build
> > > > > without
> > > > > >     > problem. My
> > > > > >     >     >     concern was for the case people tries to build
> > maven
> > > > for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >     > first
> > > > > >     >     > time,
> > > > > >     >     >     and was where I found problems. This problems are
> > as
> > > > well
> > > > > > not
> > > > > >     >     > reproduced in
> > > > > >     >     >     machines that are already working, since they
> pass
> > > the
> > > > > > initial
> > > > > >     > setup.
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     > 5) There might be some assumption that
> airglobal
> > > > and/or
> > > > > >     > playerglobal
> > > > > >     >     > exist
> > > > > >     >     >     > to determine whether the build is going to try
> to
> > > > > output
> > > > > > SWF
> > > > > >     >     > versions of
> > > > > >     >     >     > the artifacts or not.
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     > 6) The default, IIRC, is to not require
> > > > > > airglobal/playerglobal
> > > > > >     > and
> > > > > >     >     > build a
> > > > > >     >     >     > JS-Only set of artifacts similar to how it is
> > done
> > > in
> > > > > > the Ant
> > > > > >     > builds.
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     So, this wiki walkthrough:
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > > >     >     >     is describing whole process without
> > differentiation.
> > > > > >     >     >     can be updated to build with maven SWF/JS and in
> > the
> > > > > other
> > > > > > hand
> > > > > >     > only
> > > > > >     >     > JS?
> > > > > >     >     >     I think the actual page description us for
> SWF/JS,
> > > and
> > > > I
> > > > > >     > personally
> > > > > >     >     > never
> > > > > >     >     >     try / or know how to build just JS, what would be
> > > very
> > > > > >     > interesting
> > > > > >     >     > since
> > > > > >     >     >     many people will really only build for JS, and if
> > > > > sometime
> > > > > > in the
> > > > > >     >     > future we
> > > > > >     >     >     have other interesting target like WebAsembly,
> will
> > > > want
> > > > > > to add
> > > > > >     > it and
> > > > > >     >     >     build JS/WEBASM
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     > I was unaware of the page so it didn’t get updated
> with
> > > > these
> > > > > >     > changes to
> > > > > >     >     > not require SWF artifacts.  So it does need updating,
> > but
> > > > it
> > > > > > would
> > > > > >     > be best
> > > > > >     >     > to first make it clear that there are two sets of
> > output.
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     > Unfortunately, that means that most of the
> ideas
> > > I've
> > > > > > read
> > > > > >     > while
> > > > > >     >     > skimming
> > > > > >     >     >     > over this thread so far may not be correct.
> > > > > >     >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >     I think you have to have in mind that we all was
> > > > working
> > > > > > right
> > > > > >     > with our
> > > > > >     >     >     current environment and that the problem comes
> from
> > > try
> > > > > to
> > > > > > start
> > > > > >     > from
> > > > > >     >     >     scratch. Subsequents builds instructions are
> > simpler
> > > > > since
> > > > > >     > requires
> > > > > >     >     > shorter
> > > > > >     >     >     instructions.
> > > > > >     >     >     You should try to rename your "repository" folder
> > and
> > > > > > create a
> > > > > >     > new one
> > > > > >     >     > and
> > > > > >     >     >     try to build with maven to see what you find and
> if
> > > we
> > > > > can
> > > > > >     > improve
> > > > > >     >     > actual
> > > > > >     >     >     findings.
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     > Someday I will find time to do that.  May not be
> today.
> > > It
> > > > > > is, IMO,
> > > > > >     > more
> > > > > >     >     > important for others to understand the goals and how
> > this
> > > > > stuff
> > > > > >     > works so it
> > > > > >     >     > isn't all on me.  My understanding of Maven, which I
> am
> > > not
> > > > > an
> > > > > >     > expert, is
> > > > > >     >     > that what is in your local repository shouldn’t
> matter.
> > > > > Maven
> > > > > > goes
> > > > > >     > and
> > > > > >     >     > gets the dependencies you ask for in the pom.xml.
> The
> > > only
> > > > > > "trick"
> > > > > >     > is how
> > > > > >     >     > the Mavenizer extension works.  That is the only
> thing
> > > that
> > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > >     > fetch
> > > > > >     >     > from Maven Central.  So renaming or flushing the
> > > repository
> > > > > >     > "shouldn't"
> > > > > >     >     > make a difference and someone should figure out why,
> > but
> > > > only
> > > > > > after
> > > > > >     > making
> > > > > >     >     > sure the configurations make sense.  Maybe all of the
> > SWC
> > > > > POMs
> > > > > > in
> > > > > >     >     > royale-asjs need a profile that opt-in the SWF
> > artifacts.
> > > > > That
> > > > > >     > might be
> > > > > >     >     > the actual issue.  And maybe we set skipTests=false
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > compiler
> > > > > >     > if not
> > > > > >     >     > using SWF artifacts via some profile.
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     > The key point is that you can't just "get it working
> > for
> > > > > > you".  We
> > > > > >     > have to
> > > > > >     >     > maintain the two sets of outputs for others.
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     > HTH,
> > > > > >     >     > -Alex
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >     --
> > > > > >     >     Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >     >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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