Let me make announce. I will do that tomorrow morning. :) You can next post social media.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 8:24 PM Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi > > website is updated. > @Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> do you want to share 0.9.6 > in social media? or wait for announcement? > > thanks > > > El mar., 8 oct. 2019 a las 20:03, Carlos Rovira (<carlosrov...@apache.org>) > escribió: > >> Hi Andrew, >> >> if you don't mind I take into account for next release, since I'm this >> days a bit out of time. >> Thanks for taking the review. I'll try to publish now >> >> Carlos >> >> >> >> El mar., 8 oct. 2019 a las 18:57, Andrew Wetmore (<cottag...@gmail.com>) >> escribió: >> >>> I have edited the release. The only thing I would improve, if I could, is >>> the graphic at the top. The release number appears as "v0.9.6". I am >>> pretty >>> sure it would be better as "v. 0.9.6", but this is obviously not >>> something >>> to delay the release for. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:56 AM Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Got it! Thanks! >>> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 10:49 AM Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Yes! that's it :) >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> El mar., 8 oct. 2019 a las 16:31, Piotr Zarzycki (< >>> >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>) >>> >> escribió: >>> >> >>> >> > I think that would be the link: >>> >> > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/apache-royale-v0-9-6-released/ >>> >> > >>> >> > wt., 8 paź 2019 o 16:29 Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> >>> >> napisał(a): >>> >> > >>> >> > > @Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org> where is the draft >>> post? I >>> >> had >>> >> > a >>> >> > > hard disk failure this past weekend and am slowly rebuilding my >>> >> system. >>> >> > > Have to find all my links again. >>> >> > > >>> >> > > a >>> >> > > >>> >> > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 9:48 AM Andrew Wetmore < >>> cottag...@gmail.com> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > > >>> >> > > > I can do this in a couple of hours >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 9:24 AM Carlos Rovira, < >>> >> carlosrov...@apache.org> >>> >> > > > wrote: >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > >> Hi Piotr, >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> I'll wait Andrew's review and then will publish it. If Andrew >>> make >>> >> his >>> >> > > >> changes this afternoon, I can follow up and publish it. >>> >> > > >> Then we can post on social networks next or wait to tomorrow >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> El mar., 8 oct. 2019 a las 11:21, Piotr Zarzycki (< >>> >> > > >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>) >>> >> > > >> escribió: >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > Just to make sure that you understand why I asked you to post >>> >> > download >>> >> > > >> > links on website along with source code. >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > I will announce on dev, users and announce list - someone who >>> >> read >>> >> > > >> email - >>> >> > > >> > will have two options: >>> >> > > >> > 1) Can click in that email on royale.apache.org >>> >> > > >> > 2) Can download directly binaries or source code from >>> provided >>> >> links >>> >> > > in >>> >> > > >> the >>> >> > > >> > email >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > If user do #1 he will see old links on website which will be >>> >> > > >> misleading. - >>> >> > > >> > Do you understand now why I asked you to publish stuff first >>> ? >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > However as I said if you prefer do this in a opposite way >>> that's >>> >> > fine >>> >> > > >> with >>> >> > > >> > me. :) >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > wt., 8 paź 2019 o 11:17 Piotr Zarzycki < >>> >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>> >> > > >> > napisał(a): >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > > This is the goal of syncing everything tomorrow. I asked >>> you to >>> >> > > >> publish >>> >> > > >> > > first link and source code on website, cause my announce >>> >> probably >>> >> > go >>> >> > > >> > first >>> >> > > >> > > one and I didn't want to mislead with what will be on >>> website. >>> >> > > >> However if >>> >> > > >> > > you wanted to do that differently I'm fine - Couple of >>> hours of >>> >> > > >> > misleading >>> >> > > >> > > doesn't hurts anyone maybe. - We will see tomorrow. >>> >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > > wt., 8 paź 2019 o 11:05 Carlos Rovira < >>> carlosrov...@apache.org >>> >> > >>> >> > > >> > > napisał(a): >>> >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> Hi, >>> >> > > >> > >> ok, is normal, >>> >> > > >> > >> as people following our dev, are as well using links to >>> 0.9.6 >>> >> > > >> releases. >>> >> > > >> > >> The update of links in website is more about to announce >>> to >>> >> the >>> >> > > rest >>> >> > > >> of >>> >> > > >> > >> the >>> >> > > >> > >> world that is not as close to us as the rest of community. >>> >> > > >> > >> So it's important to communicate in the most organized >>> way we >>> >> > can. >>> >> > > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> thanks! >>> >> > > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> El mar., 8 oct. 2019 a las 10:51, Piotr Zarzycki (< >>> >> > > >> > >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>) >>> >> > > >> > >> escribió: >>> >> > > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > Just FYI: npm stuff and Maven artifacts are being >>> published >>> >> for >>> >> > > >> couple >>> >> > > >> > >> of >>> >> > > >> > >> > days already, so people are using released 0.9.6 trough >>> >> npm. - >>> >> > > It's >>> >> > > >> > >> happen >>> >> > > >> > >> > automatically in case of npm. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > wt., 8 paź 2019 o 10:48 Piotr Zarzycki < >>> >> > > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>> >> > > >> > >> > napisał(a): >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > > Fine with me. I make announce tomorrow morning and >>> review >>> >> > what >>> >> > > >> was >>> >> > > >> > >> your >>> >> > > >> > >> > > change and update Draft. >>> >> > > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > > wt., 8 paź 2019 o 10:46 Carlos Rovira < >>> >> > carlosrov...@apache.org >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > > napisał(a): >>> >> > > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> Hi, Piotr, >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> I think we should update all at the same time, since >>> we >>> >> want >>> >> > > to >>> >> > > >> > post >>> >> > > >> > >> in >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> twitter, Facebook and linkedin. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> Doesn't have sense to me upload just a few links >>> since >>> >> > almost >>> >> > > >> > nobody >>> >> > > >> > >> > will >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> notice it (and are already in GitHub releases). If we >>> >> need >>> >> > to >>> >> > > >> wait >>> >> > > >> > a >>> >> > > >> > >> day >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> to >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> send the official announcement it's ok for me. We can >>> >> finish >>> >> > > to >>> >> > > >> > >> improve >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> the >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> blog post in the meanwhile to do it better. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> For example, I changed a bit the wording, since we >>> are >>> >> not >>> >> > as >>> >> > > >> > >> "early" or >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> "alpha" and I mention as well that we have Apps in >>> >> > production, >>> >> > > >> what >>> >> > > >> > >> is >>> >> > > >> > >> > now >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> important. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> And finally talk about the improved Royale Docs that >>> >> will be >>> >> > > of >>> >> > > >> > help >>> >> > > >> > >> for >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> newcomers. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> I think Andrew can review the blog post and improve >>> it >>> >> and >>> >> > > then >>> >> > > >> be >>> >> > > >> > >> ready >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> to >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> publish all tomorrow. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> As well if someone notice something that needs to be >>> >> updated >>> >> > > can >>> >> > > >> > >> notify >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> us. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> Thanks >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> El mar., 8 oct. 2019 a las 10:37, Piotr Zarzycki (< >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>) >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> escribió: >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > Download and source code websites looks good to >>> me. In >>> >> > blog >>> >> > > >> post >>> >> > > >> > >> you >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> have >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > broken github links - review them and fix. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > Apart of that publish only Download and Source >>> code. >>> >> Blog >>> >> > > post >>> >> > > >> > >> should >>> >> > > >> > >> > be >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > publish after I think official announce on dev, >>> users >>> >> and >>> >> > > >> > announce >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> mailing >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > list. I'm going to do that tomorrow, cause there is >>> >> still >>> >> > > time >>> >> > > >> > for >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> review >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > Draft of announcement. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > Piotr >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > wt., 8 paź 2019 o 10:32 Carlos Rovira < >>> >> > > >> carlosrov...@apache.org> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > napisał(a): >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > Hi, >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > Thanks Piotr, for the link :) >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > I just updated website on pre site please take a >>> >> quick >>> >> > > look >>> >> > > >> and >>> >> > > >> > >> I'll >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > publish it: >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/apache-royale-v0-9-6-released/ >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/download/ >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/source-code/ >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > thanks >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > El mar., 8 oct. 2019 a las 10:06, Carlos Rovira >>> (< >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > carlosrov...@apache.org >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >) >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > escribió: >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > Hi, >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > I'm updating all website in pre. I changed >>> download >>> >> > and >>> >> > > >> > source >>> >> > > >> > >> > code >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > pages. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > I'm going to do the blog post, for this I need >>> the >>> >> > > >> > Annoucment, >>> >> > > >> > >> > but I >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > can't >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > see it in my mail client. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > @Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>> can >>> >> you >>> >> > > send >>> >> > > >> me >>> >> > > >> > >> that >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> email >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > off list? I'm going to start from the 0.9.4 >>> one in >>> >> the >>> >> > > >> > >> meanwhile >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > thanks >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > Carlos >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > El mar., 8 oct. 2019 a las 9:54, Piotr >>> Zarzycki (< >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>) escribió: >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> Carlos, >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> Let me know if you have problems with updating >>> >> links >>> >> > on >>> >> > > >> > >> website. >>> >> > > >> > >> > If >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > yes >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > I >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> will try to figure out how to do that. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> Thanks, >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> Piotr >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> wt., 8 paź 2019 o 06:54 Piotr Zarzycki < >>> >> > > >> > >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> napisał(a): >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Hey Andrew, >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Thank you! >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 11:17 PM Andrew >>> Wetmore < >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> cottag...@gmail.com> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> wrote: >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> I looked over the draft announcement, >>> Piotr, >>> >> and >>> >> > it >>> >> > > >> seems >>> >> > > >> > >> fine >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> as >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > to >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> the >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> English. I cannot speak to the technical >>> >> details >>> >> > as >>> >> > > >> well >>> >> > > >> > as >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> other >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> committers can. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> Andrew >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 5:01 PM Piotr >>> Zarzycki < >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> wrote: >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > Currently I'm waiting for review of >>> Draft of >>> >> > > >> > >> announcement. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> Till >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> maximum >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > Wednesday. Than I will send announce to >>> dev, >>> >> > users >>> >> > > >> and >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> announce >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> mailing >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > list. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > I think you should create draft and post >>> it >>> >> once >>> >> > > >> > announce >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> will be >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> sent. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > Apart of that I should add our release >>> >> somewhere >>> >> > > in >>> >> > > >> the >>> >> > > >> > >> > whimsy >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > but >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > I >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> don't >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > remember where - I need to find that. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > Piotr >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 9:33 PM Andrew >>> Wetmore < >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> cottag...@gmail.com >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> wrote: >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > That would be good >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 4:10 PM Carlos >>> >> Rovira, < >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> carlosrov...@apache.org> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > wrote: >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > Hi, >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > I'll be updating website in next few >>> >> hours, >>> >> > > but >>> >> > > >> I >>> >> > > >> > was >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > thinking >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > we >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> don't >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > have the habitual blog post for 0.9.6 >>> >> > release. >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > Should I create one from scratch >>> based on >>> >> > > 0.9.4? >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > thanks >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > -- >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > Carlos Rovira >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> -- >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> Andrew Wetmore >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> -- >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> Piotr Zarzycki >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> Patreon: * >>> https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>* >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > -- >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > Carlos Rovira >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > -- >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > Carlos Rovira >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > Piotr Zarzycki >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>* >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> -- >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> Carlos Rovira >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira >>> >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > > -- >>> >> > > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > > Piotr Zarzycki >>> >> > > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki >>> >> > > >> > >> > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>* >>> >> > > >> > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > -- >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > Piotr Zarzycki >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki >>> >> > > >> > >> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>* >>> >> > > >> > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> -- >>> >> > > >> > >> Carlos Rovira >>> >> > > >> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira >>> >> > > >> > >> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > > -- >>> >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > > Piotr Zarzycki >>> >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki >>> >> > > >> > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>* >>> >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > -- >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > Piotr Zarzycki >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki >>> >> > > >> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>* >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> -- >>> >> > > >> Carlos Rovira >>> >> > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > -- >>> >> > > Andrew Wetmore >>> >> > > >>> >> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > >>> >> > Piotr Zarzycki >>> >> > >>> >> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki >>> >> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>* >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Carlos Rovira >>> >> http://about.me/carlosrovira >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Andrew Wetmore >>> > >>> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Andrew Wetmore >>> >>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >>> >> >> >> -- >> Carlos Rovira >> http://about.me/carlosrovira >> >> > > -- > Carlos Rovira > http://about.me/carlosrovira > >