Hi Piotr,

we can plug into the release process whatever we want. I think we need to
ensure main process is right, and then other things can be plugged in. I
think tags are habitual part of a release and then emails can be done too.

El dom., 17 nov. 2019 a las 16:23, Piotr Zarzycki (<
[email protected]>) escribió:

> Carlos,
>
> Release steps provides also couple of more very useful stuff. Like creating
> branches on git, sending emails. - I hope your plan is to preserve all of
> that.
>
> niedz., 17 lis 2019 o 16:16 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>
> napisał(a):
>
> > Thanks Piotr,
> >
> > first I want to wait for Alex response. If he agree that releasing with
> > Maven is all we need, then I think the process is just focus on complete
> > maven distribution and then I'll do a 0.9.7 release to prove all is ok
> and
> > we are in the good track.
> >
> > Crossing fingers, since that would mean we get streamlined the process
> with
> > all the benefits that will mean for all of us and our users :)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > El dom., 17 nov. 2019 a las 16:03, Piotr Zarzycki (<
> > [email protected]>) escribió:
> >
> > > Cool. Good luck! - I look forward to that option working as in Ant.
> > >
> > > Try release process first before you will be too far and we end up
> again
> > > with inability to release sdk for half a year.
> > >
> > > niedz., 17 lis 2019 o 15:58 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>
> > > napisał(a):
> > >
> > > > Hi Piotr,
> > > >
> > > > in the first email of this thread I exposed that "with-distribution"
> > > > profile was the only thing still not completed (is doing the exact
> same
> > > > process as pre changes), but this coming week is one of the thing in
> my
> > > > priority since with that complete we will finish maven completely.
> > > >
> > > > So yes, still we can't build SDK with maven but hope to solve this in
> > > > around a week with Chris help.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > El dom., 17 nov. 2019 a las 15:32, Piotr Zarzycki (<
> > > > [email protected]>) escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Carlos,
> > > > >
> > > > > Comments inline.
> > > > >
> > > > > niedz., 17 lis 2019 o 12:43 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]
> >
> > > > > napisał(a):
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Alex,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > first of all I understand completely your concerns about this
> > changes
> > > > > since
> > > > > > I now the time and work it cost to you. At the time you worked on
> > > this
> > > > > > there was not all this new maven enhancements that allow us to
> > > simplify
> > > > > > things. I strongly believe that all this changes can carry us a
> > less
> > > > > > painful build and release process if we (mostly I, supported by
> > > Chris)
> > > > > can
> > > > > > overcome the CI changes to work with the new changes. All this
> will
> > > > ease
> > > > > > things for people coming that should be other priority for us. I
> > > think
> > > > > this
> > > > > > is the main barrier for newcomers and making thing ultra easy can
> > > allow
> > > > > > more people coming to Royale. This is all a bet, that we think
> can
> > > > reach
> > > > > a
> > > > > > good point. We we need to solve things in chunks if we want to
> > > succeed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But, I want to state clearly here, that if you finally don't see
> a
> > > good
> > > > > end
> > > > > > for this, you can veto this change and we can roll back to the
> > > previous
> > > > > > process. I think we can reach to simplify all and make releases
> > more
> > > > easy
> > > > > > to do, but it will imply in some parts changes that we need to
> > agree
> > > > that
> > > > > > can be done. For all this we need to try to be open mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So instead of trying to expose ways to solve concrete parts
> already
> > > > > > exposed, I want to ask about how we can simplify the release
> > process:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have Maven and ANT as first citizens for build process, so
> users
> > > can
> > > > > use
> > > > > > what they want. But my question here's, do we need to use both in
> > the
> > > > > > release process? From what I understand Apache only requires us
> to
> > > use
> > > > > one
> > > > > > of them for releasing process. So we could just rely on the maven
> > > > process
> > > > > > that are just few lines (already posted early in this thread).
> Copy
> > > > here
> > > > > to
> > > > > > notice the simplicity:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ideally releasing a part of Royale is just a 2-3 step process:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    - royale-compiler:
> > > > > >       - mvn release:prepare -DautoversionSubmodules=true
> > > > > >       - mvn release:perform
> > > > > >    - royale-typedefs:
> > > > > >       - update the pom.xml: royale.compiler.version to the new
> > > released
> > > > > >       version
> > > > > >       - mvn release:prepare -DautoversionSubmodules=true
> > > > > >       - mvn release:perform
> > > > > >    - royale-asjs:
> > > > > >       - update the pom.xml: royale.compiler.version and
> > > > > >       royale.typedefs.version to the new released version
> > > > > >       - mvn release:prepare -DautoversionSubmodules=true
> > > > > >       - mvn release:perform
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In doing in this way, we'll streamline the release process and
> will
> > > not
> > > > > > need to do anything more. Just that few lines. And that means
> > > hopefully
> > > > > > make our release process a more tiny process in time to all of
> us,
> > > > while
> > > > > > users that wants to build with ANT can do it without problem. Can
> > we
> > > > > agree
> > > > > > with this? Let me know if I'm wrong with this. Notice that my
> focus
> > > is
> > > > to
> > > > > > try to get to the easiest way possible to build and release we
> can
> > > get.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Does this few lines build IDE artifacts ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > To not create a very long thread. I'll left this here so we can
> see
> > > > what
> > > > > > you guys think about it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Carlos
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > El dom., 17 nov. 2019 a las 0:06, Alex Harui
> > > (<[email protected]
> > > > > >)
> > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm pretty sure I added JGIT in order to do the release on the
> CI
> > > > > server.
> > > > > > > See change 1aa2b16 in royale-compiler on Feb 11, 2019.  The
> > reason
> > > > the
> > > > > CI
> > > > > > > needs JGIT is because the regular Maven git support seemed to
> > > expect
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > you had a private key registered since most folks run the
> release
> > > > > plugin
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > their private computer.  JGIT allowed specification of username
> > > > without
> > > > > > > password for commits.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Royale compiler is also required to parse the time stamps
> in
> > > > order
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > inject them into the SWFs and SWCs.  So I am hopeful that
> didn't
> > > > break,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > if it did, you know where to look.  Also the release steps on
> CI
> > > > expect
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > timestamp to be given by the RM so it can be used in Ant as
> well.
> > > > So I
> > > > > > am
> > > > > > > concerned about that as well.  But maybe it will work or you
> will
> > > fix
> > > > > it.
> > > > > > > I don't care as long as it doesn't cost me time.  But as RM you
> > are
> > > > > > > responsible for the Ant artifacts as well.  The timestamp must
> > also
> > > > be
> > > > > > > handed to the voters as well in order for them to reproduce the
> > > same
> > > > > > > binaries.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My experience was that zlika was very responsive to fixing an
> > > issue.
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > not sure if Maven has picked up all of the zlika changes, but
> if
> > > not,
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > one of the artifacts will not reproduce.  When I offered a
> patch
> > to
> > > > > > Maven,
> > > > > > > I was told I had to go figure out their test harnesses and
> build
> > a
> > > > set
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > test cases, which I still haven't found time to do.  Again, if
> it
> > > all
> > > > > > ends
> > > > > > > up working and doesn't cost me time, it doesn't matter which
> > plugin
> > > > we
> > > > > > use.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > > > > -Alex
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >
> > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > >
> > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
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