I don't see any harm in creating the channel. If it never gets used, no big deal AFAICT. Unless someone can think of why we need to be careful, I'd say it is in the category of "might help, won't hurt" so JFDI.
-Alex On 12/8/19, 4:04 PM, "Andrew Wetmore" <[email protected]> wrote: As @Harbs says, if we had a channel, it would only be available to people with an Apache email address, so it can't be a support channel or a way of easing new folks into the project. If we used it, it would be for exploring ideas, hammering out misunderstandings, testing positioning, co-writing slogans and other such stuff. On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 5:54 PM Harbs <[email protected]> wrote: > Anyone with an apache.org <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Caffef5ad990842dafcaa08d77c3b5da4%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637114466763027979&sdata=P1kwRCZ%2FIq4fsYpHff5BOgR%2BK7wnjcPSD7dQdNfPxlw%3D&reserved=0> email address can join the > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthe-asf.slack.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Caffef5ad990842dafcaa08d77c3b5da4%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637114466763027979&sdata=ZttOmUqrMLD9%2BRgoYyOVwMNlenjZAMrV67vvWf20PtU%3D&reserved=0 <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthe-asf.slack.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Caffef5ad990842dafcaa08d77c3b5da4%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637114466763027979&sdata=ZttOmUqrMLD9%2BRgoYyOVwMNlenjZAMrV67vvWf20PtU%3D&reserved=0> Slack group. > > I’m not sure about non-committers. It’s definitely not the place to > discuss things that belong on the list and I don’t think it’s a good place > for additional support channels. > > It might be useful for real-time collaboration on getting things done. For > that, we should add a royale channel. > > I can go either way on that. I already use Slack for other things, so it’s > not a big deal for me to add another channel. > > Harbs > > > On Dec 8, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Carlos Rovira <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > if you open a Slack channel in The-ASF Slack try to call it "Apache > Royale" > > or the way it should be to make it more official. > > Then post here so we can add to it, and finally I can post it on website > > and Social media so people know about it. > > We just need to let people clear that is a help channel and maybe > relevant > > people on the community will be not there (disclaimer) > > and that every thing that should be discussed to make it happen in the > > project need to be posted in @dev list > > > > Thanks > > > > > > El dom., 8 dic. 2019 a las 13:51, Andrew Wetmore (<[email protected]>) > > escribió: > > > >> Hi, Alex: > >> > >> I should clarify that I am "Slack-curious" in relation to Royale. I > needed > >> to discuss some things with an ASF staffer and he said that he did not > see > >> me on the ASF Slack workspace, and asked how come. To that point, I had > not > >> known there WAS such a workspace. That made me curious about whether it > was > >> a resource Royale might consider using in some situations. > >> > >> There are several Royale email threads where the conversations would > have > >> been shorter, clearer, and possibly more productive if we had carried > them > >> out in real-time, rather than firing increasingly-exasperated email > >> messages back and forth; but I don't think anyone can tell IN ADVANCE > which > >> question is going to generate a wrangle by email that might be avoided > in a > >> near-live discussion. > >> > >> I find it easier to search a Slack thread for a keyword than to do the > same > >> thing across all the Royale-related emails in which it might have > appeared, > >> and I know I have mislaid valuable Royale-related information by not > >> extracting it from the email thread when I saw it, rather than > presuming I > >> could find it again. This may be mainly due to my own failure to curate > the > >> information that I personally need, and others may not experience this > >> problem. > >> > >> Slack channels within the workspace are free, so I may set one up for > >> Royale to have it ready against the time when it might be useful. If I > do, > >> I will mention its name (in an email haha) so others on dev will know > it is > >> there. > >> > >> Andrew > >> > >> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 4:02 AM Alex Harui <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I agree that Stack Overflow solves a different problem that Slack does > >> for > >>> other projects. > >>> > >>> Andrew, if you are still interested in Slack, can you think of a couple > >> of > >>> Royale conversations from any of our mailing lists/forums/whatever > that > >>> you think would have worked better on Slack? I suppose that some > editing > >>> of the documentation/website would be better done on IRC since it isn't > >>> super important to most of the subscribers to dev@, but you can > >> certainly > >>> ask the few other people you are working with to choose a chat-app on > an > >>> ad-hoc basis for that one discussion if it isn't going to result in > some > >>> decision or if the decision will be proposed on dev@ after the chat > >> wraps > >>> up. > >>> > >>> IIRC, the projects I've heard that are using Slack at the ASF have a > set > >>> of paid committers that work at the same time on interrelated stuff. > >>> Certain teams within Adobe use Slack but I don't since I don't > >> collaborate > >>> with other Adobe engineers. For the most part, I don't need to be > >> plugged > >>> into any team effort on Royale most of the time. I'm not sure there > are > >>> many committers who work on framework code every day. > >>> > >>> My 2 cents, > >>> -Alex > >>> > >>> > >> Andrew Wetmore > >> > >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14.blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Caffef5ad990842dafcaa08d77c3b5da4%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637114466763027979&sdata=cd95m9qwKbAzjGEj8jiz2jPJyxbagifIJvatmNbxNLE%3D&reserved=0 > >> > > > > > > -- > > Carlos Rovira > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Caffef5ad990842dafcaa08d77c3b5da4%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637114466763027979&sdata=jLrU%2B53lVmQfkkkl%2FI0DCMDynkjMKInQd2khRlrgLpE%3D&reserved=0 > > -- Andrew Wetmore https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14.blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Caffef5ad990842dafcaa08d77c3b5da4%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637114466763027979&sdata=cd95m9qwKbAzjGEj8jiz2jPJyxbagifIJvatmNbxNLE%3D&reserved=0
