Hi Piotr, I think we should try to create at some point a new Jewel DataGrid implementation in "horizontal" instead "vertical". But I think that approach will result in a very similar component result than Table
El jue., 15 oct. 2020 a las 15:43, Piotr Zarzycki (< [email protected]>) escribió: > Carlos, > > We have switched to DataGrid, so I don't want to get back to Table. Anyway > - by discussion with Greg you mean this thread ? > > If I understand you correctly you do not share using in DataGrid approach > where table tag handle "horizontal" approach as implementation ? > > Thanks, > Piotr > > czw., 15 paź 2020 o 15:35 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]> > napisał(a): > > > Hi Piotr, > > > > HeaderList and DataGrid are different things we should not mix. > > > > If you are interested in DataGrid (different approach), we already talked > > about using an "horizontal" implementation instead of "vertical" (column) > > with Greg. The original concept of Royale's DataGrid based on columns > > (list) and a header (buttonbar) was developed by Peter Ent (I think). And > > while a good idea when started, we found the main problem is to sync row > > heights, although we can solve it. I think this is the final main problem > > to solve in the Jewel version of DataGrid. > > > > About horizontal: with Greg we talked about going a similar approach you > > proposed and left the actual implementation as optional before getting so > > far, but we left because of time. > > > > In the meanwhile, I worked more on the Table component that is more near > of > > what you proposed in the vue data table link. > > Table is a component managed by dataProvider and I think is better now > than > > some months ago. Maybe still could require more work for sure, but seems > it > > does not have the row height problem, while is capable to manage > different > > columns widths since is a table. Also the header could be fixed (or not) > > and the scrolling was improved (But I think it could be improved more > since > > I have more ideas to put in place). This is what I used for the app in > [1] > > for "Ver Tabla" button (Table View). > > > > so table is already a table + div correct implementation > > > > [1] https://avant2.es/productos-y-companias > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > El jue., 15 oct. 2020 a las 14:59, Piotr Zarzycki (< > > [email protected]>) escribió: > > > > > Carlos, > > > > > > Could you present here your idea using pseudo html code - divs etc? > > > > > > I was checking couple of implementation of DataGrids in JS libraries > and > > > they are usually using Table to display content (example [1] - inspect > > HTML > > > to see structure) > > > > > > <div> > > > <table></table> > > > </div> > > > > > > What do you think about such approach ? > > > > > > [1] https://vuetifyjs.com/en/components/data-tables/ > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Piotr > > > > > > czw., 15 paź 2020 o 14:45 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]> > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > > Hi Piotr, > > > > > > > > no. I think you refer to the refactor in DataGrid to make the header > > not > > > > tied to ButtonBar. In Jewel DataGrid the header is now an interface > > > > IDataGridHeader so we can switch between implementations. That was > > needed > > > > to improve the sorting and give visuals for arrow buttons (up/down). > > But > > > I > > > > still couldn't reach it. > > > > > > > > So HeaderList was a concept I had in mind that comes from a use I did > > in > > > > flex that was manual that implies a normal list and a separated > header > > > > where the header parts and the renderer parts was sync on width. That > > > > require to set width equal manually for each pair in header and in > > > > renderer. But I found some problems trying to make it a component for > > > > general use. Maybe today could be more easy to do, but will require > > time. > > > > > > > > El jue., 15 oct. 2020 a las 14:09, Piotr Zarzycki (< > > > > [email protected]>) escribió: > > > > > > > > > Hi Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > I saw some time ago commits related to header - did you implement > > that > > > > > header list which you have mention and is it in use for header in > DG > > ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Piotr > > > > > > > > > > śr., 6 maj 2020 o 15:46 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]> > > > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Piotr, > > > > > > > > > > > > no, HeaderList is a simple List, where item renders for each item > > > are a > > > > > > complete row. In addition we add an extra header zone for the > name > > of > > > > > each > > > > > > "column". This arrangement use to show results very similar to > the > > > > image > > > > > > example I posted in this thread yesterday. So this means that > width > > > of > > > > a > > > > > > "column" is the width you set for a concrete part of the item > > > renderer > > > > > and > > > > > > you should be able to use pixel or percentage widths. > > > > > > > > > > > > The tricky part is how to sync widths of the header parts (that > > > > represent > > > > > > columns) match render parts. When I used this concept in Flex I > use > > > to > > > > > > define columns as usual, but widths must to be synced manually in > > > code. > > > > > > Maybe this time, I can figure some way to make it automatic. > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar., 5 may. 2020 a las 17:47, Piotr Zarzycki (< > > > > > > [email protected]>) > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In "1" are you saying that each row would be a HeaderList type > of > > > > > object > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > - This is your idea? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wt., 5 maj 2020 o 17:04 Carlos Rovira <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Piotr, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to expose a plan to do and I see mainly two > > routes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 List/VirtualList > > > > > > > > 2 Table (will need VirtualTable too) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we go 1 (List/VirtualList), then will have a HeaderList > that > > > is > > > > > > > > basically a DG without more implications (sorting, editing, > > > column > > > > > > > > reordering....), and I think that solve your inmediate > problem > > > with > > > > > > > > variable row heights. So next thing could be DataGrid > extending > > > > > > > HeaderList. > > > > > > > > The 3-4 points at the end are the complciated things to solve > > if > > > we > > > > > go > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > route, and maybe we can think on some bead infrastructure > (like > > > > > > > > initializers on renderers) to solve it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For 2 (Table route), the main problem I see is to solve > > scrolling > > > > for > > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > part. but other things will probably be easier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that will be more clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar., 5 may. 2020 a las 16:13, Piotr Zarzycki (< > > > > > > > > [email protected]>) > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately I don't understand which of your points > resolve > > > > issue > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > this email thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Piotr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wt., 5 maj 2020 o 14:47 Carlos Rovira < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking about this a bit more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Basic components are List and VirtualList > > > > > > > > > > * Then a HeaderList could be next step by just > > incorporating > > > a > > > > > > Header > > > > > > > > > > (There will be a Virtual version too) > > > > > > > > > > * Next DataGrid could be a HeaderList that implements > > > sorting. > > > > > > Maybe > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > will not be that hard since it implies order the complete > > > Row. > > > > > > Again > > > > > > > > > > Virtual version should be considered > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Things to consider: > > > > > > > > > > - There's no "Cell" or CellRenderer considered > > > > > > > > > > - No editing capabilities since there's no cell concept > > > > > > > > > > - Switch column will be hard too > > > > > > > > > > - more DG things to consider?... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These latest points maybe could be rethinked to add some > > bead > > > > > > > > > > infrastructure that support it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing: Jewel Table could be as well other way to > > deal > > > > > with > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > we add scrolling support for rows to maintain header on > its > > > > own. > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > > > see some problems with this approach? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar., 5 may. 2020 a las 12:34, Piotr Zarzycki (< > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]>) > > > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your thoughts. I believe you are right that > we > > > may > > > > > > have > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > headache in case of column reordering and sorting later > > on. > > > > > > However > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > wondering whether this problems wouldn't be less > painful > > > than > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > > To me DG in current state is unusable fully for bigger > > > amount > > > > > of > > > > > > > data > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > I'm saying about data where you have more than 50 or > 100 > > > > rows, > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > necessary hundreds of rows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there will be at least 1 cell among those 100 rows > > which > > > > > > expands > > > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > > > height of the row - it would be unreadable. - Here we > go > > > > > > DataGrid > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > unusable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg any thoughts about Carlos's potential sorting > > > problems ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > Piotr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wt., 5 maj 2020 o 12:21 Carlos Rovira < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry for my late response here. flooded these days > > with > > > > lots > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the manage of row height is a problem since > it > > > > needs > > > > > to > > > > > > > > sync > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > the rest of columns, maybe this could be big problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About to go rows instead columns, I think that will > > work > > > > > better > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > case, but in that case I think we will have a problem > > > with > > > > > > > > reordering > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > columns and order data in a column (asc, desc). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point to take into account. I think many > people > > > in > > > > > flex > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > multi column data list as DataGrid. While working on > > > Flex I > > > > > end > > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > List that DataGrid with renders that represent > various > > > > pieces > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > information (instead of DG cells). That worked very > > well. > > > > The > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > this approach is to handle a Header in an easy way. > For > > > > this > > > > > > > reason > > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > working this days in a "HeaderList" that is just > that a > > > > List > > > > > > > with a > > > > > > > > > top > > > > > > > > > > > > header. This will be more efficient and also have a > > look > > > > and > > > > > > feel > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > closer to modern apps nowadays [1] (I search quickly > > for > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > shows a bit like what I want to expose) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think DG is needed when you need sorting columns or > > > > > > reordering, > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > that's not the case, I think we're overusing it since > > we > > > > come > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > Flex > > > > > > > > > > > > background and this days list based solutions are > > > simpler, > > > > > > > > beautiful > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That doesn't mean we don't have the problems stated > > here > > > > for > > > > > > > > > DataGrid, > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > saying that many of us should rethink where DG is > worth > > > it > > > > or > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Piotr, about my time. I need to work on HeaderList > > since > > > a > > > > > > client > > > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > > me. If you need DG solutions, maybe you can start > > working > > > > on > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > beads > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > will be a total replace of the actual ones so we can > > try > > > it > > > > > and > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > way is a better approach or not (rows against > columns). > > > If > > > > > not > > > > > > > I'll > > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > reach to it later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > https://ps.w.org/wpforo/assets/screenshot-1.png?rev=2121401 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El sáb., 2 may. 2020 a las 16:32, Alex Harui > > > > > > > > > (<[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > >) > > > > > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think there is one perfect implementation. > > And > > > > > > that's > > > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > beads. I think locked columns and individual cell > > > > > selection > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > > > easier with the current implementation, but I agree > > > that > > > > > > > variable > > > > > > > > > row > > > > > > > > > > > > > height will probably be easier if all cells are in > a > > > row > > > > > > > > container. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We just need volunteers to create the other > > > > > implementations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/2/20, 12:17 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" < > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I absolutely agree with Greg. In fact before I > > read > > > > his > > > > > > > > email I > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > digging > > > > > > > > > > > > > into DataGrid and my initial thought was - > when I > > > set > > > > > > > > > rowHeight = > > > > > > > > > > > NaN > > > > > > > > > > > > > - My > > > > > > > > > > > > > rows should be adjusted automatically by the > > > browser > > > > - > > > > > > why > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > happen? This is exactly because of that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In browser I think things would be a lot easier > > if > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internal 'lists' were managed as a single > list > > of > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > rows > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > composed columns of lists for DataGrids > > > > (specifically > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > browser). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos do you think it would be good to change > > that > > > > > > > > > > implementation > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > way as Greg is proposing ? Do you have time to > > work > > > > on > > > > > > > that ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Piotr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > czw., 30 kwi 2020 o 20:48 Greg Dove < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the variable rowHeight - that works fine > > for > > > > > > > individual > > > > > > > > > > > lists, > > > > > > > > > > > > > but for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > datagrid that needs to match across the > > > > corresponding > > > > > > > > > renderers > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > each > > > > > > > > > > > > > > item in the other columns, I did not check to > > see > > > > how > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > part > > > > > > > > > > > > > works. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't looked at the current Jewel > > > > implementation > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > DataGrid > > > > > > > > > > > > > yet, but I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do think that in general we have a lot of > > > > 'Flex'/swf > > > > > > > > thinking > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > way > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things work for DataGrid support, and I am > not > > > sure > > > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > best > > > > > > > > > > > > > way for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browsers. I understand the need for this in > > > > emulation > > > > > > > > > > components, > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps even the implementation there is not > > > > > important > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > external api > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remains the same. In browser I think things > > would > > > > be > > > > > a > > > > > > > lot > > > > > > > > > > easier > > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internal 'lists' were managed as a single > list > > of > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > rows > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > composed columns of lists for DataGrids > > > > (specifically > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > browser). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Columns could probably be managed then by > > custom > > > > > > > uid-style > > > > > > > > > > > classes > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styling of their parts of the 'rows'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this probably covers off things like > > > > variable > > > > > > row > > > > > > > > > > height > > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > height easily, and makes hover/selection at > row > > > > level > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > > easier. > > > > > > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things like snapping the scrolling to the > > > renderers > > > > > > (via > > > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > > > > > snap-to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support for scroll snapping iiuc) should be > > much > > > > > easier > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > think. Do I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have time to work on this ? No - definitely > not > > > > > anytime > > > > > > > > real > > > > > > > > > > > soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had been thinking about it after digging into > > > > > internals > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > DataGrid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:52 AM Alex Harui > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't looked at Jewel's Lists in > detail, > > > but > > > > if > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > switched to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scenario 2 (virtual rendering is probably a > > > good > > > > > > > > default), > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assumptions in the beads about fixed > > rowHeight. > > > > > But > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > handle > > > > > > > > > > > 5, > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > start with the earlier beads that did 1 and > > > > forget > > > > > > > > virtual > > > > > > > > > > > > > rendering for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now. Then you should be able to not worry > > > about > > > > > > fixed > > > > > > > > > > > rowheight > > > > > > > > > > > > > any more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since our vertical layouts for containers > > > > certainly > > > > > > > > handle > > > > > > > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children heights. The beads for 5 should > > just > > > > set > > > > > a > > > > > > > > width > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browser layout the children as blocks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/30/20, 8:47 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" < > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought I do understand what do you > > mean, > > > > but > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see complexity ? In amount of rows > > and > > > > > > > > calculations > > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > > > height > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rows are ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > czw., 30 kwi 2020 o 17:44 Alex Harui > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IMO, there are various tricks to > > handle a > > > > few > > > > > > > > > thousand > > > > > > > > > > > rows > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > renderers are simple. For example, > > > feeding > > > > > in > > > > > > > rows > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > timer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > computer can handle the memory > required > > > > for a > > > > > > few > > > > > > > > > > > thousand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > renderers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > main issue is the time to create and > > > render > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is when you get out to 10,000 rows > > or > > > > the > > > > > > > > > renderers > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complex/slow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that it doesn't make sense to keep > > every > > > > > > renderer > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > memory > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's why > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the complexity goes up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, schedule-wise, you might start > > > with 5 > > > > > now > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > take more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work on 7 or 8. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/30/20, 8:33 AM, "Piotr > Zarzycki" < > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Alex, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's hard to say, cause we are > > > heavily > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > DataGrid > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > application. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each view contains some list. We > > have > > > > for > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > > > > > view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > called > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Correspondence" where in theory > > > could > > > > be > > > > > > > > > hundreds > > > > > > > > > > > rows > > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thousands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Piotr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > czw., 30 kwi 2020 o 17:27 Alex > > Harui > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Piotr, how many rows of data > are > > > > > there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IMO, there are multiple > scenarios > > > of > > > > > > > > increasing > > > > > > > > > > > > > complexity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the reasons we have beads in > > > Royale. > > > > > The > > > > > > > > vast > > > > > > > > > > > > > majority of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so far > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has been to handle the simpler > > > > > scenarios. > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > ones I > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) few rows, fixed height, > pixel > > > > > > scrolling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) lots of rows, fixed height, > > > pixel > > > > > > > > scrolling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) lots of rows, fixed height, > > row > > > > > > > scrolling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) few rows, fixed height, row > > > > > scrolling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) few rows, variable height, > > pixel > > > > > > > scrolling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) few rows, variable height, > row > > > > > > scrolling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) lots of rows, variable > height, > > > row > > > > > > > > scrolling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) lots of rows, variable > height, > > > > pixel > > > > > > > > > scrolling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've done 1 & 2 as beads. 5 > > > should > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > not-too-hard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > although I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > certainly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be wrong about that. If you > can > > > live > > > > > > with > > > > > > > 5, > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and other volunteers can come > up > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > > beads > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jump in complexity after 5, > > > > especially > > > > > 7 > > > > > > & > > > > > > > 8. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/30/20, 6:54 AM, "Piotr > > > > Zarzycki" < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just for the reference when > > you > > > > > setup > > > > > > > > > > > > > variableRowHeight = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > true > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in flex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DataGrid looks like that - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibb.co%2FD7K9dLs&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cadb613d3469b4e4ff5a908d7ee68e25e%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637240006609623612&sdata=sUdKOR6zDPo4XRfeXYfIB16e2X6yy6MmVDWvntYZ3no%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > czw., 30 kwi 2020 o 15:51 > > Piotr > > > > > > > Zarzycki > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also do not see any > other > > > > > option > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > generate > > > > > > > > > > > > > each > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > height > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > row > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > based on the largest > height > > > in > > > > > each > > > > > > > > row. > > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > definitely not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > option to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > force people use > rowHeight > > - > > > > That > > > > > > > model > > > > > > > > > > > > > definitely fail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > application > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where there are different > > > > portion > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > text > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > rows. One > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > row > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > height the second one 45 > > > > because > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > text > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > display > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right now Jewel DataGrid > > > > doesn't > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > variableRowHeight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in some form appear and > if: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > variableRowHeight = > true - > > > Row > > > > > > > height > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > calculated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dynamically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each row can have > different > > > > > height. > > > > > > > > Setup > > > > > > > > > > > > > rowHeight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > option > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > true won't have affect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > variableRowHeight = > > false - > > > > > > default > > > > > > > > > > state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Setup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rowHeight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > effect. Each row has some > > > > > > predefined > > > > > > > > > > default > > > > > > > > > > > > > height ex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 35. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Piotr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pt., 10 kwi 2020 o 17:35 > > > Carlos > > > > > > > Rovira > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Piotr, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I was taking a look at > the > > > > > issue. > > > > > > > Some > > > > > > > > > > > initial > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thoughts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> List has > > "variableRowHeight: > > > > > true" > > > > > > > > > > (defined > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theme) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rowHeight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> NaN; by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> default > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> (as we can see in first > > List > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > TDJ. > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> for each item renderer, > > > while > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rowHeight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > defined > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> makes all items has the > > same > > > > > > height > > > > > > > > > (Side > > > > > > > > > > > > note: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a bug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> defining rowHeight > should > > > > remove > > > > > > > > > > > > > "variableRowHeight", > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> mutually exclusive). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> In DataGrid, we have > lots > > of > > > > > Lists > > > > > > > > > > becoming > > > > > > > > > > > > > columns. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make DG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> List I think we need to > > sync > > > > all > > > > > > > rows > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > match > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > height per > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> renderer in all lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I think there's no other > > way > > > > to > > > > > do > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> If not, other options is > > to > > > > > avoid > > > > > > DG > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "variableRowHeight" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > force > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> people to use > "rowHeight". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I don't remember what > Flex > > > > allow > > > > > > to > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > here, > > > > > > > > > > > > > but maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> discuss a bit to see > what > > > > could > > > > > be > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > best > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > Royale > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jewel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DataGrid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Carlos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> El vie., 10 abr. 2020 a > > las > > > > > 15:45, > > > > > > > > Piotr > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zarzycki (< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > [email protected] > > >) > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Hi Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > We have switched in > our > > > > > > > application > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > DataGrid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > some custom adjustment > > to > > > > have > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > working, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > move > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> forward > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > with that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > However I have found > > > > something > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fixed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sooner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > When rowHeight is not 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