Hi Alex, ok thanks. For optional I was meaning to not make SWF play in normal builds or releases if we can't ensure the foundation bits from Adobe. It seems that for now the things are partially solved with the working URLs provided by Harbs. I think if Chris update mavenizer to use the playerglobal.swc new url, we are ok for now. Although this can change if the urls are temporal and Adobe plan to remove soon. If that's the case, we will need to reopen this thread soon.
Let's see how it goes Thanks Carlos El lun, 4 ene 2021 a las 7:28, Alex Harui (<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>) escribió: > SWF support should already be optional. I don't think Adobe bits are > needed to generate SWCs. The SWF in a SWC is written and read by compiler > code. The "js-only" packages don't require Adobe bits AFAIK. > > Of course, I could be wrong... > -Alex > > On 1/3/21, 6:31 AM, "Harbs" <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We can’t make swf optional until we can compile SWCs without SWF > support. > > We don’t hyet know what will be available from Adobe’s website. > > If the necessary pieces will no longer be available from Adobe, we can > put it on some other server. > > A longer-term strategy of making SWF optional is something we can > consider, but we are a long way from there currently, so the discussion is > premature IMO. > > My $0.02, > Harbs > > > On Jan 3, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Carlos Rovira < > carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > thanks for taking a look and report this. I think this is a big > issue that > > we all should discuss. So changing the topic to [Discuss]. > > A clear action is needed from the PMC here. > > > > For me the options are: > > > > 1.- Make SWF something optional in all the builds and releases, but > not > > required. So SWF target can become obsolete and not maintained or > seen as > > an issue for releasing. People can add manually the Flash Player in > its > > repo if they have it and continue building and ensure things continue > > working, but the JS will be the main and unique requested target > until we > > have another like WASM in the future (if that happen on day). The > main > > problem will be that Apache Royale will lose eventually the double > target > > we have right now as something we know is working, at least in an > > official way. > > > > 2.- As Chris said, see if there's some way to make Adobe provide a > special > > use case for the playerglobal.swc and let us use it. I think that not > > should be a problem since that bits are not really useful or harmful > > without the Flash Player to run things on browsers. But I figure the > Adobe > > response will be just a simple "NO". But we can try before falling > back to > > option 1. For this to happen I think someone like Alex Harui that is > inside > > Adobe can move the threads internally or just let to us and give > some Adobe > > contact to ask for this permission. I think the Apache Flex donation > to > > Apache seems to me broken without this, since the project is now > broken, > > and Apache Royale is in the same boat. > > > > More options? Thoughts? > > > > Thanks > > > > Carlos > > > > > > El dom, 3 ene 2021 a las 11:21, Christofer Dutz (< > christofer.d...@c-ware.de>) > > escribió: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> in December I got my new Laptop and set it up. I forgot to get the > Flash > >> Debug player. > >> Now I did manage to download the 32 bit version of the Content > Debuger, > >> but already some of the downloads on the download page: > >> Adobe Flash Player - Debug Downloads< > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.adobe.com%2Fsupport%2Fflashplayer%2Fdebug_downloads.html&data=04%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cb4399cb362ba4efcdf7c08d8aff441fc%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637452810972763721%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=nklaio%2BraK5RI%2BmEEIhRVeiM%2Fve4XNQL8RXO5BPLYpE%3D&reserved=0 > > > >> Result in 404s > >> > >> Will the 32bit content debugger stay available? If not we will be > cutting > >> off new contributors. Cause building with the "with-flash" profile > will not > >> be possible. > >> > >> So I cloned Royale on my new machine and gave it a spin. > Unfortunately I > >> will not be able to build all parts from now on as I no longer have > access > >> to the playerglobal. > >> > >> [INFO] Couldn't find artifact: > >> com.adobe.flash.framework:20.0:playerglobal:pom > >> [INFO] =========================================================== > >> [INFO] - Installing Adobe Flash SDK 20.0 > >> SLF4J: Class path contains multiple SLF4J bindings. > >> SLF4J: Found binding in > >> > [jar:file:/C:/Users/cdutz/.m2/repository/org/apache/flex/utilities/converter/flex-sdk-converter-maven-extension/1.0.0/flex-sdk-converter-maven-extension-1.0.0.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder.class] > >> SLF4J: Found binding in > >> > [jar:file:/C:/Users/cdutz/.m2/repository/org/slf4j/slf4j-simple/1.7.21/slf4j-simple-1.7.21.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder.class] > >> SLF4J: Found binding in > >> > [jar:file:/C:/Users/cdutz/.m2/repository/ch/qos/logback/logback-classic/1.1.7/logback-classic-1.1.7.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder.class] > >> SLF4J: Found binding in > >> > [jar:file:/C:/Program%20Files/JetBrains/IntelliJ%20IDEA%202020.3/plugins/maven/lib/maven3/lib/maven-slf4j-provider-3.6.3.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder.class] > >> SLF4J: See > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slf4j.org%2Fcodes.html%23multiple_bindings&data=04%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cb4399cb362ba4efcdf7c08d8aff441fc%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637452810972773676%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RJJTZzxPOSQ1taUPMc5FiRNE9gPTx3E8WmOwNjJD83g%3D&reserved=0 > for an > >> explanation. > >> SLF4J: Actual binding is of type > [org.slf4j.impl.SimpleLoggerFactory] > >> Your System-Id: ddcb1466 > >> The Adobe SDK license agreement applies to the Adobe Flash Player > >> playerglobal.swc. Do you want to install the Adobe Flash Player > >> playerglobal.swc? > >> (In a non-interactive build such as a CI server build, > alternatively to > >> typing y or yes you can also set a system property containing your > system > >> which is interpreted as equivalent to accepting by typing y or yes: > >> > -Dcom.adobe.systemIdsForWhichTheTermsOfTheAdobeLicenseAgreementAreAccepted=ddcb1466 > >> ) > >> Do you accept (Yes/No) ? yes > >> [main] INFO > >> > org.apache.flex.utilities.converter.retrievers.download.DownloadRetriever - > >> statusCode: 403 > >> [main] INFO > >> > org.apache.flex.utilities.converter.retrievers.download.DownloadRetriever - > >> reasonPhrase: Forbidden > >> [main] INFO > >> > org.apache.flex.utilities.converter.retrievers.download.DownloadRetriever - > >> =========================================================== > >> [main] INFO > >> > org.apache.flex.utilities.converter.retrievers.download.DownloadRetriever - > >> Downloading > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffpdownload.macromedia.com%2Fget%2Fflashplayer%2Finstallers%2Farchive%2Fplayerglobal%2Fplayerglobal20_0.swc&data=04%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cb4399cb362ba4efcdf7c08d8aff441fc%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637452810972773676%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=VEH92ZDi6yJ6G6ruN6GPW%2B%2B3lYhmAJsY04iQ%2Bu6ecAo%3D&reserved=0 > >> [main] INFO > >> > org.apache.flex.utilities.converter.retrievers.download.DownloadRetriever - > >> Expected size: 0KB > >> 0% [> ] > >> [main] INFO > >> > org.apache.flex.utilities.converter.retrievers.download.DownloadRetriever - > >> [main] INFO > >> > org.apache.flex.utilities.converter.retrievers.download.DownloadRetriever - > >> Finished downloading. > >> [main] INFO > >> > org.apache.flex.utilities.converter.retrievers.download.DownloadRetriever - > >> =========================================================== > >> Skipping Flash runtime generation. > >> > >> I can probably salvage the com/adobe driectory in my maven local > repo on > >> my mac and use that ... but new contributors don't have this option. > >> > >> Would it be possible to make the playerglobal availalbe at some > permanent > >> place (Ideally deployed to maven central)? I know the license > agreement it > >> was under wouldn't allow this. > >> But Adobe could probably just provice the swc and the pom-xml the > >> mavenizer produced and simply have that deployed to maven central. > If there > >> is help needed with this, I would be happy to help. > >> > >> If this isn't possible I would suggest to discuss in the project > making > >> the Flash part of the project optional for releasing and validating. > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> > > > > -- > > > > Carlos Rovira > > > > Presidente Ejecutivo > > > > M: +34 607 22 60 05 > > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.codeoscopic.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cb4399cb362ba4efcdf7c08d8aff441fc%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637452810972773676%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=C6w688wPwTTCq%2BBJ3Je0HJLsCTwjfQD%2FoUSLamfgdM0%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > Conócenos en 1 minuto! < > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Favant2.es%2F%23video&data=04%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cb4399cb362ba4efcdf7c08d8aff441fc%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637452810972773676%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=aq%2BJdhDn85nN%2B7Z%2BueRitEkVrlte5MbfgHCoZzwKcKg%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > AVISO LEGAL: La información contenida en este correo electrónico, y > en su > > caso en los documentos adjuntos, es información privilegiada para uso > > exclusivo de la persona y/o personas a las que va dirigido. 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