One more thing, perhaps related. I’m getting a different in the 
flex-compiler-oem-0.9.8.jar between my local system and the CI server because 
of this line

+  - playerglobal  com.adobe.flash.framework:playerglobal:swc:20.0

In META-INF/DEPENDENCIES

which only exists in one of the systems. Any ideas on how to get around that?

Thanks.

From: Yishay Weiss<mailto:yishayj...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 10:36 AM
To: dev@royale.apache.org<mailto:dev@royale.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [Discuss] What to do with SWF target now that Adobe removed Flash 
Player in 2021 (Re: How to build from now on?)

Hi Josh,

I’m running release ant script which has

<exec executable="${mvn}" dir="${artifactfolder}/sources" failonerror="true" >
            <arg value="clean" />
            <arg value="install" />
            <arg value="-Proyale-release,option-with-swf" />
        </exec>

This results in

     [exec] [INFO] Installing 
C:\temp2\sources\compiler-playerglobalc\target\compiler-playerglobalc-0.9.8-tests.jar
 to C:\Users\yisha\.m2\repository\org\apache\royale\compile
r\compiler-playerglobalc\0.9.8\compiler-playerglobalc-0.9.8-tests.jar
     [exec] [INFO]
     [exec] [INFO] ----------------< org.apache.royale.compiler:compiler 
>-----------------
     [exec] [INFO] Building Apache Royale: Compiler: Compiler 0.9.8             
     [6/13]
     [exec] [INFO] --------------------------------[ jar 
]---------------------------------
     [exec] [INFO] Couldn't find artifact: 
com.adobe.flash.framework:20.0:playerglobal:pom
     [exec] [INFO] ===========================================================
     [exec] [INFO]  - Installing Adobe Flash SDK 20.0
     [exec] SLF4J: Class path contains multiple SLF4J bindings.
     [exec] SLF4J: Found binding in 
[jar:file:/C:/Users/yisha/.m2/repository/org/apache/flex/utilities/converter/flex-sdk-converter-maven-extension/1.0.0/flex-sdk-converter-m
aven-extension-1.0.0.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder.class]
     [exec] SLF4J: Found binding in 
[jar:file:/C:/Users/yisha/.m2/repository/org/slf4j/slf4j-simple/1.7.21/slf4j-simple-1.7.21.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder.class]
     [exec] SLF4J: Found binding in 
[jar:file:/C:/Users/yisha/.m2/repository/ch/qos/logback/logback-classic/1.1.7/logback-classic-1.1.7.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder
.class]
     [exec] SLF4J: Found binding in 
[jar:file:/C:/dev/apache-maven-3.6.3/bin/../lib/maven-slf4j-provider-3.6.3.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder.class]
     [exec] SLF4J: See http://www.slf4j.org/codes.html#multiple_bindings for an 
explanation.
     [exec] SLF4J: Actual binding is of type 
[org.slf4j.impl.SimpleLoggerFactory]
     [exec] Your System-Id: ca4f30bf
     [exec] The Adobe SDK license agreement applies to the Adobe Flash Player 
playerglobal.swc. Do you want to install the Adobe Flash Player 
playerglobal.swc?
     [exec] (In a non-interactive build such as a CI server build, 
alternatively to typing y or yes you can also set a system property containing 
your system which is interpr
eted as equivalent to accepting by typing y or yes: 
-Dcom.adobe.systemIdsForWhichTheTermsOfTheAdobeLicenseAgreementAreAccepted=ca4f30bf
 )

Adding

               <arg 
value="-Dcom.adobe.systemIdsForWhichTheTermsOfTheAdobeLicenseAgreementAreAccepted=ca4f30bf"
 />

Did make the prompt go away, but I’m not sure if I can commit ca4f30bf or if 
that’s specific to my system.

Can you advise?

Thanks.

From: Josh Tynjala<mailto:joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:39 AM
To: Apache Royale Development<mailto:dev@royale.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [Discuss] What to do with SWF target now that Adobe removed Flash 
Player in 2021 (Re: How to build from now on?)

Here's a follow-up with my progress in March.

Last month, I had gotten airglobal.swc building, and now, I've figured out
how to exclude the AIR-only APIs and build a separate playerglobal.swc too.
I've committed playerglobal and airglobal projects to royale-typedefs.
Again, these .swc files get built from the Apache-licensed doc XML files
that Adobe donated to Apache Flex.

I've made some changes to the builds for royale-asjs to start using these
new .swc files. Libraries build. Examples build. Tests pass. These .swc
files are working nicely. Things can still be improved, but it's a solid
start.

Maven is using our airglobal/playerglobal for pretty much everything. You
can run `mvn clean install` at the root of royale-asjs, and it will build
all framework .swc files without requiring any Adobe artifacts. You can
also run with `-P with-distribution,option-with-swf` to build a zip/tar.gz
distribution without requiring any Adobe artifacts.

The only time that the Maven build still requires Adobe artifacts is if you
specify `-P with-distribution,option-with-swf` and
`-DdistributionTargetFolder=` together. The `-DdistributionTargetFolder`
option merges in everything from the AIR SDK (not only airglobal.swc, but
also executables like adt and adl), and I assume that we still want that to
be possible, but optional. If you need a SWF distribution without Adobe
stuff, just build the zip/tar.gz version and extract it.

I basically consider the Maven changes to be done at this point.

Ant is using our airglobal/playerglobal in some places, but not everywhere
yet. You can run `ant` in the root of royale-asjs, and it will build all
framework .swc files without requiring Adobe artifacts. If you have
env.AIR_HOME or env.PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME specified, it will still use Adobe
artifacts, and I plan to keep that working for anyone who happens to prefer
that. If you don't have those environment variables set, it will use our
airglobal/playerglobal automatically.

Building a SWF distribution with Ant still requires env.AIR_HOME and
env.PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME at this time. I just didn't have quite enough time
this month to finish that part. Next month, I hope to be able to modify the
Ant build to do a full release without Adobe artifacts (except you'll still
need Flash Player to run tests, of course).

I know that there's been talk of doing a release soon. While my work is
still in progress, it's currently in a state that should not prevent a
release, if someone wants to do one. As I said, you can still specify
env.AIR_HOME and env.PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME, and the Ant release distribution
build with Adobe artifacts should work the same as before.

--
Josh Tynjala
Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev>


On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 3:55 PM Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev>
wrote:

> Just an update on my progress in February to create an Apache-licensed
> playerglobal.swc. Last month, I had successfully built the SWC file using
> the Apache-licensed asdoc XML files that are in the Flex SDK, but I hadn't
> had a chance to see if I could drop it in to replace the official Adobe SWC
> yet. When I finally got a chance to try it this month, my SWC didn't work
> at first. However, I was able to make some tweaks to the APIs where I
> discovered that types/parameters were slightly wrong in the docs. I can now
> successfully use the SWC to build the entire Royale framework (including
> running RoyaleUnit tests), and I can run the compiler's
> "royale.dependent.tests" integration tests too.
>
> I also cleaned up the command line API for playerglobalc to make it work
> more like other compiler tools, like mxmlc, compc, or externc. After
> getting that working, I updated the royale-maven-plugin to make it possible
> to build the same SWC using either Maven or the command line.
>
> What I still need to do:
>
> - Build separately playerglobal.swc and airglobal.swc. AIR-only APIs
> should not appear in playerglobal.swc.
> - Test the SWC with some non-Royale projects too. Since building the
> Royale framework helped me find some APIs that were slightly wrong in the
> docs, I figure that I should test the SWC with some other projects too. I
> plan to drop the SWC into the Flex SDK, and test some apps using Flex,
> Starling, and Feathers. That should cover a wide range of APIs. If they all
> compile and run, then I think our Apache-licensed replacement will be
> looking pretty solid.
> - Finally, I need to figure out how to integrate our new
> playerglobal.swc/airglobal.swc into the distribution builds. I'd like to
> allow anyone building the framework to continue to use SWCs from Adobe or
> Harman, if they'd prefer.
>
> --
> Josh Tynjala
> Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 2:16 PM Josh Tynjala <joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev>
> wrote:
>
>> FYI — I just pushed a prototype playerglobal-source-gen project to the
>> royale-compiler repo. It's a command line app that can generate .as files
>> from the Flex SDK's Apache-licensed asdoc files for playerglobal.swc. The
>> idea is to use these generated .as files to compile our own
>> playerglobal.swc that we can distribute under the Apache license. If Adobe
>> ever decides to remove playerglobal.swc from their website, we'll have our
>> version available as a backup.
>>
>> I've gotten the project far enough along that I can successfully build
>> the generated .as source files into a .swc without any compiler errors.
>> However, I haven't yet had a chance to check if that .swc can be used in an
>> SDK/distribution instead of the official playerglobal.swc or airglobal.swc.
>> In February, when I have some more time, I'll continue testing all of that.
>> I just wanted to share my current progress so far!
>>
>> --
>> Josh Tynjala
>> Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 1:34 AM Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>
>>> I think that's a very good idea. As less external dependencies we have
>>> the
>>> better. And I think that means one thing less to download or manage by
>>> mavenizer.
>>>
>>> Could it be possible that you contribute it?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> El lun, 4 ene 2021 a las 21:53, Josh Tynjala (<joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev
>>> >)
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> > If necessary, I believe that we can create our own custom
>>> playerglobal.swc
>>> > without running into license issues.
>>> >
>>> > Basically, the official playerglobal.swc contains only the APIs, and no
>>> > implementation, so it's basically like the typedef/externs SWCs that we
>>> > create for JS libraries in Royale
>>> >
>>> > The Apache Flex repo contains full ASDoc XML files for playerglobal.swc
>>> > under an Apache license. These files should contain enough information
>>> > about variable/property types and method signatures that someone could
>>> > write a parser to get all of the data we need to generate AS3 stub
>>> classes
>>> > and build a SWC from that.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Josh Tynjala
>>> > Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 11:07 AM Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Let’s wait and see whether we are dealing with real issues or not. If
>>> > it’s
>>> > > an issue we can debate solutions.
>>> > >
>>> > > I’m happy to ask my Adobe contacts what the plan is.
>>> > >
>>> > > > On Jan 3, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Hi Harbs,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > the problem here's that I think we are on Apache, and using a
>>> piece of
>>> > > > software that is under a clear license use will be against the
>>> > foundation
>>> > > > rules. So although you or I can host the files, that's not seem to
>>> me
>>> > > like
>>> > > > a solution to the real problem.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I'm for go step by step and first try to talk with Adobe
>>> > representatives
>>> > > to
>>> > > > get the permission for Apache to host the player files only for our
>>> > flex
>>> > > > and royale use cases. I think we could continue discussion after we
>>> > know
>>> > > > the solution to this request
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Can you, Alex or others do this request? or if you want I can do
>>> it,
>>> > but
>>> > > > need someone to provide me the contact at adobe.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > El dom, 3 ene 2021 a las 15:59, Harbs (<harbs.li...@gmail.com>)
>>> > > escribió:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> There’s no license agreement when downloading playerglobal or the
>>> > > content
>>> > > >> debugger.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> I’m willing to take the risk to personally host these files if
>>> > > necessary.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> On Jan 3, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Christofer Dutz <
>>> > christofer.d...@c-ware.de
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> wrote:
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> And I doubt we would be allowed to simply upload Adobe stuff to
>>> any
>>> > > >> other server wirhout explicit conset from them. The license
>>> agreement
>>> > > you
>>> > > >> agreed to when downloading explicitly forbids that (at least it
>>> did,
>>> > > wenn
>>> > > >> we were working on the Flex Mavenizer and I doubt things changed)
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --
>>> > > > Carlos Rovira
>>> > > > Apache Member & Apache Royale PMC
>>> > > > *Apache Software Foundation*
>>> > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carlos Rovira
>>> Apache Member & Apache Royale PMC
>>> *Apache Software Foundation*
>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>>
>>

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