I second Puja's confusion.  I've been going off this article [1] from
gnu.org:

"""
The LGPL and Java

...

The typical arrangement for Java is that each library an application uses
is distributed as a separate JAR (Java Archive) file. Applications use
Java's “import” functionality to access classes from these libraries. When
the application is compiled, function signatures are checked against the
library, creating a link. The application is then generally a derivative
work of the library. So, the copyright holder for the library must
authorize distribution of the work. The LGPL permits this distribution.

"""

--Aaron


[1] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-java.html

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 7:47 AM Puja Valiyil <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think I follow.  The source references an lgpl Api, and we are
> publishing binary that references it in nexus.   Are you sure it's not an
> issue?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 6, 2016, at 10:36 PM, Seetharam Venkatesh <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > If it's a runtime dependency, you are fine. Apache only supports source
> releases. We vote on source tar ball and not binary artifacts.
> >
> > Makes sense?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone,
> > Venkatesh
> >
> >> On Oct 6, 2016, at 12:40 PM, David Lotts <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, geotools is a runtime dependency.  No geotools source code is
> >> distributed.
> >>
> >> By that I mean: Geotools source code is not in our source code
> repository.
> >> Only references: imports in our *.java files and dependencies entries in
> >> our pom.xml.   Because of this maven will package geotools JARs
> (binaries)
> >> in our shaded/uber JAR and WAR files that we distribute.
> >>
> >> With option 1 or 2 as discussed, maven will exclude the geotools jars in
> >> our JARs and WARs.  Users of Rya can follow some instructions that we
> >> provide to add "-P indexing" (or similar) to their Maven build command
> >> create their own jar/war containing the optional Rya features and
> geotools
> >> binaries.
> >>
> >> Your "you should be okay." mean which of these????
> >> A. option 1 and option 2 will work around the issue and we should
> proceed
> >> before we release,
> >> - OR -
> >> B.  We are already in compliance and this is not a blocker for release
> as
> >> long as we are not redistributing geotools source code.
> >>
> >> Hopeful for interpretation B, but expecting and happy with A.
> >>
> >> david.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Seetharam Venkatesh <
> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Quick question - geotools is a runtime dependency? Are you shipping the
> >>> source code? If not, you should be okay.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone,
> >>> Venkatesh
> >>>
> >>>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Puja Valiyil <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>> Talking with Aaron, it seems like there were two paths forward for
> >>>> refactoring in order to create a release.  To refresh everyone's
> memory,
> >>>> the issue was that the geo-indexing extensions to Rya pull in
> geotools,
> >>>> which prohibits us from releasing Rya under an Apache 2 license.
> There
> >>> may
> >>>> be some more particulars that I'm glossing over -- someone please
> chime
> >>> in
> >>>> if they feel it is key to the discussion.
> >>>> The two paths forward we had were:
> >>>> 1.  Make all of the indexing project and its downstream dependencies
> >>>> optional and exclude them from a release
> >>>> -- The indexing project includes several "optional" extensions to Rya
> >>>> (advanced indexing strategies).  Prior to Rya becoming an apache
> project,
> >>>> these indexing extensions were optional and there was a separate
> profile
> >>>> for including them.  This option involves reverting back to that
> mindset.
> >>>> The main argument against this is that these indexing
> >>> strategies/extensions
> >>>> are not in fact optional but are "core" to Rya and can't be excluded.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2.  Refactor Rya to pull geoindexing into a separate project and
> exclude
> >>>> that project from the release.
> >>>> - We could refactor Rya to have geoindexing be its own project and
> add a
> >>>> profile to include that in the build.  This would invovle moving the
> >>> class
> >>>> mvm.rya.indexing.GeoIndexer and packages mem.rya.indexing.accumulo.geo
> >>> and
> >>>> mvm.rya.indexing.mongodb.geo to a separate project and then
> >>> removing/moving
> >>>> references to geoindexing anywhere else.  Another option is to
> refactor
> >>> the
> >>>> GeoIndexer interface to remove the geotools dependency.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think #1 is a good immediate path for a release and that #2 is a
> good
> >>>> longer term path forward.  Since it's probably in our best interests
> as a
> >>>> community to get an apache release sooner rather than later, I'd
> rather
> >>> us
> >>>> go with #1 since it would quicker.  I also think that most users of
> Rya
> >>>> would be ok with excluding the indexing project since it is not core
> >>>> functionality for Rya.  While #2 is a better long term plan, it
> involves
> >>>> some pretty extensive refactoring that would be difficult to do well
> in a
> >>>> timely manner.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any thoughts?
> >>>
>

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