Hey,
I started trying to implement #2.  Give me 10 minutes and I'll push it and
you can start from there.
Sorry I should have communicated that earlier in this thread.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Aaron D. Mihalik <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Okay, I'm going to take another shot at the "profile" solution and remove
> tinkerpop.rya.  I'll post the PR to the dev list and give let people
> comment on the PR.  I'll look at PR over the weekend if if there aren't any
> issues, I'll pull it into apache master on Sunday.
>
> --Aaron
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 10:42 AM Puja Valiyil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'm fine with that.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Aaron D. Mihalik <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Can we remove tinkerpop.rya?  I thought that this was part of the query
> > > based reasoning, but the inference engine / rya.sail does not have a
> > > dependency on rinkerpop.rya.
> > >
> > > --Aaron
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 7:39 AM Puja Valiyil <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > The reasoning here is not the query based inference-- it is the
> external
> > > reasoner that runs on map reduce.
> > > I need to double check but I think the dependency is due to
> referencing a
> > > config Utilities class that should be in accumulo Rya not in indexer.
> So
> > > moving a single class to a different project will likely fix a lot of
> > this.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Oct 6, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Aaron D. Mihalik <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > After reviewing the PR that David submitted, it's concerning the
> number
> > > of
> > > > projects that would fall into this "optional" bin.  Some users
> probably
> > > > consider these "core" functions (e.g. reasoning and web):
> > > >
> > > > Here the modules that need to be removed from the build in order to
> > > remove
> > > > the geotools references:
> > > >
> > > > mapreduce
> > > > indexing
> > > > rya.indexing.pcj
> > > > indexingExample
> > > > rya.pcj.fluo
> > > > tinkerpop.rya
> > > > web.rya
> > > > rya.reasoning
> > > > rya.console
> > > > rya.merger
> > > >
> > > > --Aaron
> > > >
> > > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:41 PM David Lotts <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes, geotools is a runtime dependency.  No geotools source code is
> > > >> distributed.
> > > >>
> > > >> By that I mean: Geotools source code is not in our source code
> > > repository.
> > > >> Only references: imports in our *.java files and dependencies
> entries
> > in
> > > >> our pom.xml.   Because of this maven will package geotools JARs
> > > (binaries)
> > > >> in our shaded/uber JAR and WAR files that we distribute.
> > > >>
> > > >> With option 1 or 2 as discussed, maven will exclude the geotools
> jars
> > in
> > > >> our JARs and WARs.  Users of Rya can follow some instructions that
> we
> > > >> provide to add "-P indexing" (or similar) to their Maven build
> command
> > > >> create their own jar/war containing the optional Rya features and
> > > geotools
> > > >> binaries.
> > > >>
> > > >> Your "you should be okay." mean which of these????
> > > >> A. option 1 and option 2 will work around the issue and we should
> > > proceed
> > > >> before we release,
> > > >> - OR -
> > > >> B.  We are already in compliance and this is not a blocker for
> release
> > > as
> > > >> long as we are not redistributing geotools source code.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hopeful for interpretation B, but expecting and happy with A.
> > > >>
> > > >> david.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Seetharam Venkatesh <
> > > [email protected]
> > > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Quick question - geotools is a runtime dependency? Are you shipping
> > the
> > > >>> source code? If not, you should be okay.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sent from my iPhone,
> > > >>> Venkatesh
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Puja Valiyil <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hi everyone,
> > > >>>> Talking with Aaron, it seems like there were two paths forward for
> > > >>>> refactoring in order to create a release.  To refresh everyone's
> > > >> memory,
> > > >>>> the issue was that the geo-indexing extensions to Rya pull in
> > > geotools,
> > > >>>> which prohibits us from releasing Rya under an Apache 2 license.
> > > There
> > > >>> may
> > > >>>> be some more particulars that I'm glossing over -- someone please
> > > chime
> > > >>> in
> > > >>>> if they feel it is key to the discussion.
> > > >>>> The two paths forward we had were:
> > > >>>> 1.  Make all of the indexing project and its downstream
> dependencies
> > > >>>> optional and exclude them from a release
> > > >>>> -- The indexing project includes several "optional" extensions to
> > Rya
> > > >>>> (advanced indexing strategies).  Prior to Rya becoming an apache
> > > >> project,
> > > >>>> these indexing extensions were optional and there was a separate
> > > >> profile
> > > >>>> for including them.  This option involves reverting back to that
> > > >> mindset.
> > > >>>> The main argument against this is that these indexing
> > > >>> strategies/extensions
> > > >>>> are not in fact optional but are "core" to Rya and can't be
> > excluded.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 2.  Refactor Rya to pull geoindexing into a separate project and
> > > >> exclude
> > > >>>> that project from the release.
> > > >>>> - We could refactor Rya to have geoindexing be its own project and
> > add
> > > >> a
> > > >>>> profile to include that in the build.  This would invovle moving
> the
> > > >>> class
> > > >>>> mvm.rya.indexing.GeoIndexer and packages
> > mem.rya.indexing.accumulo.geo
> > > >>> and
> > > >>>> mvm.rya.indexing.mongodb.geo to a separate project and then
> > > >>> removing/moving
> > > >>>> references to geoindexing anywhere else.  Another option is to
> > > refactor
> > > >>> the
> > > >>>> GeoIndexer interface to remove the geotools dependency.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I think #1 is a good immediate path for a release and that #2 is a
> > > good
> > > >>>> longer term path forward.  Since it's probably in our best
> interests
> > > >> as a
> > > >>>> community to get an apache release sooner rather than later, I'd
> > > rather
> > > >>> us
> > > >>>> go with #1 since it would quicker.  I also think that most users
> of
> > > Rya
> > > >>>> would be ok with excluding the indexing project since it is not
> core
> > > >>>> functionality for Rya.  While #2 is a better long term plan, it
> > > >> involves
> > > >>>> some pretty extensive refactoring that would be difficult to do
> well
> > > >> in a
> > > >>>> timely manner.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Any thoughts?
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>

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