And thank you so much, Do Yung, for inviting us to the delicious lunch! Also thanks to Daewon and Hwansung for coming far from the south and north in the metropolitan area during the day.
Cheers, Woonsan On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 12:05 PM Woonsan Ko <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi folks in S2Graph community, > > I had a chance to visit Seoul for two months, even better I met and > chatted with some active committers - Daewon Jeong, Do Yung Yoon and > Hwansung Yu - over lunch in a Chinese restaurant in Seoul yesterday. > We discussed informally how we can help grow our community as well as > personal interests. So, even if it was a very short talk for about 1.5 > hr, I'd like to share a summary on what we discussed _informally_ > regarding community development issues with other developers and users > in this community. I believe this is compliant with the "Open > Communications" policy [1] in the Apache Way. ;-) > > 1. There has not been much project / community activity for last 1+ year. > I also had a concern about the progress. However, after having > talks face-to-face with the active committers, I was able to > understand what they had to face in their $dayjobs, working very hard > to successfully maintain a lot of S2Graph services in real sites > handling huge amount of traffics. They have tried to improve > documentation and API accessibility for new comers, just to give a few > examples, but it has been a struggle... Things seem to start changing. > They started reorganizing their work/time, and trying to find ways to > help new developers get involved more easily by improving the > developer experiences. Even if it looks slow-moving at this moment, > I'm personally confident with their passion as a mentor. > > 2. Various ideas on how to improve developer's experience were spoken. > For example, I personally mentioned that I tried to contribute > Swagger API documentation before but due to programming language > barrier - Scala which I had to start learning - it was very hard for > me to complete, adding "if it was Java, I could have been more > productive...". ;-) Daewon mentioned that they planned to provide a > Java client in the past and it is still something in their radar. > Also, I shared that Apache Jackrabbit has an option to run the JCR > server instance in-process residing in a web application, with an > alternative option to deploy the server instance in a separate process > to communicate with remotely. We may consider in the future that the > in-process option could be good to help developer's experience, too. > Like how developers feel confident and convenient nowadays with > spring-boot. > > 3. And we chatted on open source communities/cultures and business > models in general. > I don't think I can describe these properly as each topic was too > brief, scattered at random and it might sound a bit vague without > regional context information. Probably it's just worth mentioning that > we got better understandings on each by sharing same concerns and > information in these topics. > > All right. That's all I can recall. ;-) > Please feel free to add your thoughts in this thread if you have any > suggestions or insights. > I personally think this project has a unique value as the open source > graph database server in ASF. As the project artifacts have been used > successfully in big site's services, if we improve developer's > experiences and accessibility and so help grow the community, I > believe this will be a successful project and community in the end. I > have no doubt with the passions. > > Hope to have more formal/informal meetups - just over pizza for > example - in the future, too. Let's think about it, inviting more > people... Perhaps public/social-service offices may help as well. ;-) > > Kind regards, > > Woonsan > > [1] https://www.apache.org/theapacheway/ > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Woonsan Ko <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:42 AM > Subject: Re: Meet and chat in Seoul area? > To: <[email protected]> > > > Hi Hwansung, > > After Chuseok sounds good! :-) > > Regards, > > Woonsan > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:16 PM Hwansung Yu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm so happy to hear from you. > > How about late September after thanksgiving? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Hwansung > > > > > > 2019년 8월 27일 (화) 오후 9:05, Woonsan Ko <[email protected]>님이 작성: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm going to stay in South Korea in Sept. and Oct. If anyone is > > > willing to meet and chat (perhaps over beer), let me know. I'd be very > > > happy. ;-) > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Woonsan > > >
