Hi Do Yung, Please see my comments inline.
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 12:24 AM DO YUNG YOON <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for sharing woonsan. > > Here is what I thought thanks to this meeting. > > 1. There has not been much project / community activity for the last 1+ > years. > > I have been thought that the usability of this project can be improved if > the committers agree and pursue it. > I have been busy with operating S2Graph at kakao, not improving and > contributing for a while, but since I changed my work, I am available to > contributing again. As far as I remember, I pointed out the issues that we > opened, but never actually worked on, such as improving documentation and > API accessibility. I might reinvolve this project by starting on these > issues(of course others who interested are welcome). +1 > > 2. Various ideas on how to improve developer's experience were spoken. > > Personally, I have changed the works, and the new enviroment requires me to > work with spring boot and AWS RDS(postgre), instead of netty and HBase on > on-premise cloud at kakao. Now I have strong initiative for JDBC storage > backend, and also Java Client, so I think I can persue these new features > and we will see if it is beneficial. That's great news! I have some experiences in Java and Spring-boot. Also very interested in JDBC support. Really cool idea! I'll try to help with those as far as I can. Thanks as always for your heads-up and sincere efforts for the community! Cheers, Woonsan > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 4:14 PM Woonsan Ko <[email protected]> wrote: > > > And thank you so much, Do Yung, for inviting us to the delicious > > lunch! Also thanks to Daewon and > > Hwansung for coming far from the south and north in the metropolitan > > area during the day. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Woonsan > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 12:05 PM Woonsan Ko <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi folks in S2Graph community, > > > > > > I had a chance to visit Seoul for two months, even better I met and > > > chatted with some active committers - Daewon Jeong, Do Yung Yoon and > > > Hwansung Yu - over lunch in a Chinese restaurant in Seoul yesterday. > > > We discussed informally how we can help grow our community as well as > > > personal interests. So, even if it was a very short talk for about 1.5 > > > hr, I'd like to share a summary on what we discussed _informally_ > > > regarding community development issues with other developers and users > > > in this community. I believe this is compliant with the "Open > > > Communications" policy [1] in the Apache Way. ;-) > > > > > > 1. There has not been much project / community activity for last 1+ year. > > > I also had a concern about the progress. However, after having > > > talks face-to-face with the active committers, I was able to > > > understand what they had to face in their $dayjobs, working very hard > > > to successfully maintain a lot of S2Graph services in real sites > > > handling huge amount of traffics. They have tried to improve > > > documentation and API accessibility for new comers, just to give a few > > > examples, but it has been a struggle... Things seem to start changing. > > > They started reorganizing their work/time, and trying to find ways to > > > help new developers get involved more easily by improving the > > > developer experiences. Even if it looks slow-moving at this moment, > > > I'm personally confident with their passion as a mentor. > > > > > > 2. Various ideas on how to improve developer's experience were spoken. > > > For example, I personally mentioned that I tried to contribute > > > Swagger API documentation before but due to programming language > > > barrier - Scala which I had to start learning - it was very hard for > > > me to complete, adding "if it was Java, I could have been more > > > productive...". ;-) Daewon mentioned that they planned to provide a > > > Java client in the past and it is still something in their radar. > > > Also, I shared that Apache Jackrabbit has an option to run the JCR > > > server instance in-process residing in a web application, with an > > > alternative option to deploy the server instance in a separate process > > > to communicate with remotely. We may consider in the future that the > > > in-process option could be good to help developer's experience, too. > > > Like how developers feel confident and convenient nowadays with > > > spring-boot. > > > > > > 3. And we chatted on open source communities/cultures and business > > > models in general. > > > I don't think I can describe these properly as each topic was too > > > brief, scattered at random and it might sound a bit vague without > > > regional context information. Probably it's just worth mentioning that > > > we got better understandings on each by sharing same concerns and > > > information in these topics. > > > > > > All right. That's all I can recall. ;-) > > > Please feel free to add your thoughts in this thread if you have any > > > suggestions or insights. > > > I personally think this project has a unique value as the open source > > > graph database server in ASF. As the project artifacts have been used > > > successfully in big site's services, if we improve developer's > > > experiences and accessibility and so help grow the community, I > > > believe this will be a successful project and community in the end. I > > > have no doubt with the passions. > > > > > > Hope to have more formal/informal meetups - just over pizza for > > > example - in the future, too. Let's think about it, inviting more > > > people... Perhaps public/social-service offices may help as well. ;-) > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Woonsan > > > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/theapacheway/ > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > > > From: Woonsan Ko <[email protected]> > > > Date: Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:42 AM > > > Subject: Re: Meet and chat in Seoul area? > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > Hi Hwansung, > > > > > > After Chuseok sounds good! :-) > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Woonsan > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:16 PM Hwansung Yu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I'm so happy to hear from you. > > > > How about late September after thanksgiving? > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Hwansung > > > > > > > > > > > > 2019년 8월 27일 (화) 오후 9:05, Woonsan Ko <[email protected]>님이 작성: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to stay in South Korea in Sept. and Oct. If anyone is > > > > > willing to meet and chat (perhaps over beer), let me know. I'd be > > very > > > > > happy. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > Woonsan > > > > > > >
