On 06/10/09 16:51, Michael Meeks wrote:
What makes you think they are being held back ? the issues around
DataPilot that Kohei are working on have been communicated quite clearly
to Sun - eg. i#101328 - how clear can it be: the comment "accepting it
for 3.2" from Kohei; i#100619, i#22029 both assigned to
Kohei, all fitting the mould of work we send up-stream.
It seems extraordinarily short sighted, and saddening to try and
avoid co-ordination on this; it makes it appear that you almost relish
destroying other people's work by duplication, even when they are trying
hard to work with you - which is a highly unfortunate and unpleasant
position. Strangely, sad to say, this is a friction that is not normally
experienced when dealing with your co-workers.
Despite your obviously offensive mail; to make it easier for IBM to
review the changes, I've asked Kohei to create a CWS and whack the
patches in there - please don't do the normal witheringly negative critique,
they may not be completely ready yet. FWIW, I'm always amused when I ask for
design review, people prefer instead to rave about commented (or not)
debugging fprintfs instead ;-)
There is code that the IBM people want to contribute now, and code that
you advertise as a go-oo feature but didn't contribute yet. If you're
changing your mind now, that's good. As I wrote: Then we can try to
merge them (the changes). Otherwise, what else can we do but use the
code that we can get? I am not going to delay integration of IBM's
changes until you decide you've kept your changes to yourself long enough.
So - the context is that Kohei has asked, politely, and reasonably
asked, to co-ordinate this work so we don't waste effort here - he talks
of a pipeline of changes in data-pilot, of solidifying the code. And then
you turned him down: why all this aggressive talk of deliberate work
duplication ?
If you choose to dig up the past, lets do it: sure - we remember
the solver, there was my code in there too; we remember your leading
role in destroying a volunteer's spare-time creation, your tone almost
sounds as if you enjoyed that. I had always assumed this appalling
initiative to abuse, divide and stifle the 'Open'Office.org project,
purely in Sun's proprietary interest, was forced by StarDivisions's
(visionary) senior management, rather than being cheer-lead by
individual Sun developers.
Since I see almost nothing defensible about Sun's past action
here, I would (personally) recommend avoiding raking over it all again;
why don't we just get on with the technical issues around improving
the DataPilot implementation.
For at least two years (2005 to 2007) we didn't start a solver
component, although there was demand and the approach was sketched out,
because I believed Kohei was going to make (and contribute) one. I don't
want the same situation with DataPilot enhancements.
Niklas
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