Hi All,

I have compiled a checklist aligned with the Apache Project Maturity
Model to evaluate our graduation readiness. During this process, I
identified gaps in certain documentation requirements, which I’ve
addressed by submitting updates to the Seata website.

Current Status:
  - Checklist Draft: Hosted on the project wiki for collaborative review.
  - Community Alignment: Based on my preliminary assessment, we
largely meet PMM criteria. However, this is my personal evaluation and
requires broader validation.
  - Next Steps: Once consensus is reached on each checklist item, I
will migrate the finalized version to the official website.

Invitation for Feedback:
Please review the checklist and share your insights. Focused
discussions on specific criteria are particularly welcomed.

During my review of the checklist, I encountered ambiguity regarding
Release Requirement RE40 in the Apache Maturity Model. The original
text states:
> The project can distribute convenience binaries alongside source code, but 
> they are not Apache Releases, they are provided with no guarantee.

Does this mean our release artifacts (e.g.,
apache-seata-2.4.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz) qualify as convenience
binaries rather than official ASF releases? If so, should we
explicitly disclaim warranties for these binaries per ASF release
policy?

Seata Maturity model checklist:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-seata/wiki/maturity-model-assessment
Apache Project Maturity Model:
https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html





Warm regards,

Min Ji

Min Ji <ji...@apache.org> 于2025年7月7日周一 14:43写道:
>
> Hi YongJun,
>
> Thank you very much for your reply. Before graduation, we have many
> things to deal with and improve.
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Min Ji
>
> YongJun Hong <yongj...@apache.org> 于2025年7月6日周日 19:48写道:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm glad to see that Seata is getting closer to graduating from the 
> > Incubator!
> >
> > I agree with Jiangke Wu’s suggestion to assign owners and target completion 
> > dates for each item — it’s a great way to ensure steady progress.
> >
> > If there’s anything I can help with, please feel free to let me know.
> > I’ll do my best to support the effort.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Yongjun Hong (YongGoose)
> >
> >
> > On 2025/07/04 08:39:40 Jiangke Wu wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > It's great to see Min Ji initiating the discussion about Seata's
> > > graduation. After 608 days in the incubator, it's truly exciting that we
> > > are getting close to this significant milestone.
> > >
> > > I completely agree with Min Ji's points. As he emphasized, graduation is
> > > not the responsibility of a single committer but a shared duty for every
> > > one of us in the PPMC and the broader community. We need to collaborate
> > > closely to complete this final stretch.
> > >
> > > The proposal to create a public checklist on the official website is
> > > excellent. It will allow us to systematically track our progress against
> > > the Apache Maturity Model and keep the entire community informed.
> > >
> > > To make this plan even more effective, I suggest that as we build the
> > > checklist, we also assign a specific owner to each action item and perhaps
> > > a target date for completion. This will ensure clear accountability and
> > > help us move forward efficiently.
> > >
> > > Let's work together to complete this checklist and successfully guide 
> > > Seata
> > > through graduation.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to collaborating with all of you on this.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Jiangke Wu(xingfudeshi)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 10:58 PM Min Ji <ji...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > As we approach 608 days since entering the Apache Incubator, I propose
> > > > we initiate a formal discussion to assess our project's maturity
> > > > against the Apache Maturity Model [1]. This evaluation is crucial to
> > > > determine whether Seata meets all requirements outlined in the model
> > > > and is ready to graduate from incubation.
> > > >
> > > > Key Discussion Points:
> > > >
> > > > Review current status against the 37-point Apache Maturity Checklist
> > > > Establish consensus on graduation readiness
> > > > Define action items for remaining requirements
> > > >
> > > > I suggest we set up a public document and put it on the official
> > > > website to check and record the contents item by item and Invite IPMC
> > > > mentors to provide guidance
> > > >
> > > > [1].
> > > > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
> > > >
> > > > Let's collaborate to ensure Seata successfully completes this critical
> > > > milestone. Please share your availability and thoughts on the proposed
> > > > approach.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Warm regards,
> > > >
> > > > Min Ji
> > > >
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