Hi Min,

I have reviewed the checklist[1] and Apache Project Maturity Model[2], and
it looks good overall. However, in item CO40, "XX" should be replaced with
the actual number of new committers, although this number may change
later. I believe it’s time to initiate the graduation vote – please go
ahead. Good luck to Seata!


[1 ]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-seata/wiki/maturity-model-assessment
[2]
https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html

Best Regards,
Jiangke Wu(xingfudeshi)


On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 7:36 PM Min Ji <ji...@apache.org> wrote:

> As mentioned above, if you have time, please help Review it. After
> confirming that there are no issues, I will update it to the official
> website and launch a graduation vote.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Min Ji
>
> Min Ji <ji...@apache.org> 于2025年7月7日周一 15:10写道:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have compiled a checklist aligned with the Apache Project Maturity
> > Model to evaluate our graduation readiness. During this process, I
> > identified gaps in certain documentation requirements, which I’ve
> > addressed by submitting updates to the Seata website.
> >
> > Current Status:
> >   - Checklist Draft: Hosted on the project wiki for collaborative review.
> >   - Community Alignment: Based on my preliminary assessment, we
> > largely meet PMM criteria. However, this is my personal evaluation and
> > requires broader validation.
> >   - Next Steps: Once consensus is reached on each checklist item, I
> > will migrate the finalized version to the official website.
> >
> > Invitation for Feedback:
> > Please review the checklist and share your insights. Focused
> > discussions on specific criteria are particularly welcomed.
> >
> > During my review of the checklist, I encountered ambiguity regarding
> > Release Requirement RE40 in the Apache Maturity Model. The original
> > text states:
> > > The project can distribute convenience binaries alongside source code,
> but they are not Apache Releases, they are provided with no guarantee.
> >
> > Does this mean our release artifacts (e.g.,
> > apache-seata-2.4.0-incubating-bin.tar.gz) qualify as convenience
> > binaries rather than official ASF releases? If so, should we
> > explicitly disclaim warranties for these binaries per ASF release
> > policy?
> >
> > Seata Maturity model checklist:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-seata/wiki/maturity-model-assessment
> > Apache Project Maturity Model:
> >
> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Min Ji
> >
> > Min Ji <ji...@apache.org> 于2025年7月7日周一 14:43写道:
> > >
> > > Hi YongJun,
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your reply. Before graduation, we have many
> > > things to deal with and improve.
> > >
> > >
> > > Warm regards,
> > >
> > > Min Ji
> > >
> > > YongJun Hong <yongj...@apache.org> 于2025年7月6日周日 19:48写道:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I'm glad to see that Seata is getting closer to graduating from the
> Incubator!
> > > >
> > > > I agree with Jiangke Wu’s suggestion to assign owners and target
> completion dates for each item — it’s a great way to ensure steady progress.
> > > >
> > > > If there’s anything I can help with, please feel free to let me know.
> > > > I’ll do my best to support the effort.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Yongjun Hong (YongGoose)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2025/07/04 08:39:40 Jiangke Wu wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > It's great to see Min Ji initiating the discussion about Seata's
> > > > > graduation. After 608 days in the incubator, it's truly exciting
> that we
> > > > > are getting close to this significant milestone.
> > > > >
> > > > > I completely agree with Min Ji's points. As he emphasized,
> graduation is
> > > > > not the responsibility of a single committer but a shared duty for
> every
> > > > > one of us in the PPMC and the broader community. We need to
> collaborate
> > > > > closely to complete this final stretch.
> > > > >
> > > > > The proposal to create a public checklist on the official website
> is
> > > > > excellent. It will allow us to systematically track our progress
> against
> > > > > the Apache Maturity Model and keep the entire community informed.
> > > > >
> > > > > To make this plan even more effective, I suggest that as we build
> the
> > > > > checklist, we also assign a specific owner to each action item and
> perhaps
> > > > > a target date for completion. This will ensure clear
> accountability and
> > > > > help us move forward efficiently.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's work together to complete this checklist and successfully
> guide Seata
> > > > > through graduation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking forward to collaborating with all of you on this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > Jiangke Wu(xingfudeshi)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 10:58 PM Min Ji <ji...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As we approach 608 days since entering the Apache Incubator, I
> propose
> > > > > > we initiate a formal discussion to assess our project's maturity
> > > > > > against the Apache Maturity Model [1]. This evaluation is
> crucial to
> > > > > > determine whether Seata meets all requirements outlined in the
> model
> > > > > > and is ready to graduate from incubation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Key Discussion Points:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Review current status against the 37-point Apache Maturity
> Checklist
> > > > > > Establish consensus on graduation readiness
> > > > > > Define action items for remaining requirements
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suggest we set up a public document and put it on the official
> > > > > > website to check and record the contents item by item and Invite
> IPMC
> > > > > > mentors to provide guidance
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1].
> > > > > >
> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's collaborate to ensure Seata successfully completes this
> critical
> > > > > > milestone. Please share your availability and thoughts on the
> proposed
> > > > > > approach.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Warm regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Min Ji
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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