No rush. It is me saying "yeah, I'd like to rip it out RIGHT NOW", but am
waiting for people to respond.

The answer was given: "naw, not yet".

But people seemed like I was in a rush. No, I was avoiding a rush, and
giving people time to provide feedback.

Cheers,
-g


On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 2:15 PM Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 23. 6. 25 17:50, Greg Stein wrote:
> > The concept of "72 hours" is normal for Apache communities to reach
> > decisions. It provides everybody a chance to see the
> concern/issue/question
> > and respond to it. 72 hours spans weekends, so those in the community
> that
> > only contribute weekdays can also participate.
> >
> > The 72 hour rule is a core feature of Apache governance. It is not a
> "rush"
> > to ask for 72 hours to ask for consensus, but is actually a *provision*
> of
> > time against taking unilateral immediate action.
> >
> > The 72 hour span has existed at Apache for over 25 years. I am surprised
> > people find it concerning. It is completely normal.
>
> Greg, this is not a release vote, or any kind of vote, nor even any kind
> of situation where it would be appropriate to invoke the lazy consensus
> rule. It's a discussion about a feature in the code and how to implement
> it. These have been known to last for months if necessary. Nathan has
> already said that he needs more time to research. I'd be surprised if
> others were not in the same situation.
>
> Why the rush? It's not as if there's a critical remote root access
> exploit fix waiting to be released and we have (checks watch) 58:27 on
> the timer before it all goes kaboom. This way, it just feels like you're
> trying to pressure people into making hasty decisions.
>
> Yes, we all know what those 72 hours are. A guideline.
>
> -- Brane
>

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