sure, mainly forcus on management , ease of use, rollback, key value
version control. value validation.

first we support API, later UX.

bismy <bi...@qq.com> 于2019年3月29日周五 下午4:08写道:

> Provide a centered configuration management service is very important for
> ServiceComb, because all microservice governance functions are based on
> dynamic properties. In ServiceComb microservice view, now we currently use
> following functions( implement archaius api using apollo and config-center)
>
>
>   * pull/push configurations of key-value pair from configuration service.
>
>
> in microservice view, no future functions is needed. So I guess the
> suggested service mainly focus on management functions. How do you decide
> to provide this functions? Add a management console or by REST api?
>
>
> ------------------ 原始邮件 ------------------
> 发件人: "Xiaoliang Tian"<xiaoliang.t...@gmail.com>;
> 发送时间: 2019年3月29日(星期五) 下午2:14
> 收件人: "dev"<dev@servicecomb.apache.org>;
>
> 主题: Re: [PROPOSAL] ServiceComb MetaConfig
>
>
>
> let's think how we change a timeout for a particular operation?
> the key is xxx.usermanagement.user.getuser.timeout, is that key easy to be
> manged by operator? I guess he has to learn a special key rule only make
> sense in his team
>
> I want this timeout just be timeout, and easy to read
> it bacame timeout(service= usermanagement  , schema=user,opertion=getuser)
>
> Xiaoliang Tian <xiaoliang.t...@gmail.com> 于2019年3月29日周五 下午12:15写道:
>
> >
> > maybe the name confused,it is a service only for configurations,but the
> key contains metadata
> > key1:  log_level(service=cart, version=1.0, app=mall)
> > key2:  log_level(service=cart, version=1.0, app=mall, ip=x.x.x.x)
> > that is 2 different keys
> >
> > you can consider apollo has fixed metadata and one fixed view to math
> > their own scenario.
> >
> > but in apollo,  key can be very complicated, user can not easily observe
> > keys, a lot of metadata will be attacted to key name, just like ip to
> > "log_level"
> >
> > Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com> 于2019年3月29日周五 上午11:36写道:
> >
> >> Hi Xiaoliang,
> >>
> >> Do you propose we start a new project to manage the micro services meta
> >> datas?
> >> Currently we just have a solution to integrate with with Apollo for
> >> configuration management, but what's the difference between the
> >> service metadata and configuration?
> >> I could help us to understand the proposal, if we can drop a clear line
> >> for it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Willem Jiang
> >>
> >> Twitter: willemjiang
> >> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 10:52 AM Xiaoliang Tian
> >> <xiaoliang.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > MetaConfig is  a  service for configuration management in an large
> >> scaled
> >> > distrbuted system.
> >> >
> >> > Currently we use ctrip appllo for config managment, but it is build
> for
> >> a
> >> > paticular scenario. it has fixed schema
> >> application,environment,cluster and
> >> > namespace.  Each key belong to that schema.
> >> >
> >> > But it is not enough for operator to manage a complicated
> >> infrasctructure
> >> > or application cluster.
> >> >
> >> > So here is the proposal to build a brand new config management
> service,
> >> >
> >> > *Features: *
> >> > *key with rich metadata: *user can define metadata for a key , that
> >> > distinguish from key to another key.  a key will not be stringed by
> >> fixed
> >> > schema.  metadata is like "env=test, service=cart, version=1.0" or
> >> > "cluster=xxx"  or "env=test, service=cart, version=1.0, ip=x.x.x.x"
> >> > *validator: *value can be checked by user defined python script, so in
> >> > runtine if someone want to change this value, the script will check if
> >> this
> >> > value is properate.
> >> > *encryption webhook: *. value can by ecrypt by your custom encryption
> >> > service.
> >> > *event producer:  *producer will send key changes event to a target
> >> > service(kafka,rabbitmq, customed).
> >> > *config view: *by setting metadata criteria, MetaConfig will
> aggregate a
> >> > view to return all key values which match those metadata, so that
> >> operator
> >> > can mange key in their own understading to a distributed system in
> >> > seperated views.
> >> > *config batch action: * with metadate, you can batch update, delete
> key
> >> > values. for example: update all "service=cart version=1.0"
> configuration
> >> > log level to "DEBUG" or just update  "service=cart version=1.0,
> >> ip=x.x.x.x"
> >> >  .
> >> > *rich value type: *not ony plain text any more, but support to be
> aware
> >> of
> >> > ini, json,yaml,xml and java properties
> >> > *heterogenous configuration system: *able to manage configuration in
> k8s
> >> > and consul or even more, you can update, delete, and use config view
> for
> >> > those systems, and you can integrate with your own config system to
> >> > MetaConfig by following standardized API and model
> >>
> >

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