On 15/10/10 10:09, Johan Edstrom wrote:
I'll bite that :)

I guess you are right.

/je
On Oct 15, 2010, at 2:03 AM, raulvk....@gmail.com wrote:

Hmm... I actually think the description should focus on integration rather and 
enterprise apps.

Otherwise, the purpuse becomes too generic and bland.

Also, coining it as a platform for enterprise apps, doesn't it make it compete 
with Spring DM Server, JBossAS, etc. All of which are OSGi already, or in the 
process of transitioning.

Just my 2 cents. Will try and describe my vision later.

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Edstrom<seij...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 01:48:53
To:<dev@servicemix.apache.org>
Reply-To: dev@servicemix.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] ServiceMix future

ServiceMix "The primary platform for OSGi enterprise applications"

Which really is how I treat it, position it and debate it when out on jobs.

/je
On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:38 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote:

OSGi based platform for enterprise applications.
Johan Edstrom

j...@opennms.org

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Johan Edstrom

j...@opennms.org

They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, 
deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759





We have open the pandora box. With OSGI adoption in SMX4, the gravity center of our ESB platform has shifted from ESB to a platform supporting not only integration but able to be a web server, java application server .... So I think that we must take the time of the reflection to position correctly Smx 5 server for the future and the mix OSGI + OSGI EE (ARIES) + Camel + CXF + ActiveMQ + orchestration engine is probably the best match. As Aries proposes and provide JPA, JNDI, WEB, Blueprint (with better integration of Spring - JMS, JDBC, ....), Transactions aspects we should also (like now) continues to support them and open the eyes of our users about the perspectives proposed by that kind of platform.

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