+1

The world of JSF add-ons and extensions is getting pretty crowded, and I
like the idea of Shale being a one-stop-shop for high-quality extensions and
tools for JSF. Often people ask me "what about Shale, and what _is_ Seam?" 

Also, it'd be nice to have a WebBeans implementation that doesn't have any
(real or imagined) ties to the JEMS product line. 

P.S. I've been pretty quiet on this list, but I do follow Shale and provide
training for it. 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Craig McClanahan
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:55 PM
> To: Shale Developers List
> Subject: JSR-299 ("Web Beans") Implementation In Shale?
> 
> I recently spoke with Gavin King (spec lead for JSR-299) 
> about this JSR.  In addition to getting his agreement on both 
> Matthias and James to be on the EG, we talked a bit about 
> their (Red Hat's) plans for the RI and TCK.  Their thinking 
> is that the RI and TCK would be developed by Red Hat 
> themselves (since they are the company responsible for 
> providing it) under some reasonable open source license ... 
> but Gavin would actually like it if there was a second 
> implementation being developed at the same time.  That kind 
> of thing goes a long way towards catching design limitations 
> and/or ambiguities in the spec as it's being developed.
> 
> So, I've got a question for us ... would we be interested 
> (now or later) in building *a* compatible implementation of 
> this JSR, even though it wouldn't be *the* RI?  Instead, it 
> would be a feature of Shale in addition to all the other 
> stuff we do.  I'm pretty intrigued by this, and the ideas 
> that JSR-299 wants to deal with fit pretty nicely with what 
> we've already started.  It would make sense for us to have 
> this kind of functionality available inside Shale.
> 
> If we go this way, this seems like a good candidate for the 
> sandbox during development (since we wouldn't be able to ship 
> a finished release of it until the spec goes final).
> 
> What do you think?  Are we interested in putting this on our 
> roadmap?  (And following up +1s with code?  :-)
> 
> Craig
> 
> PS:  Another JSR we should keep an eye on is 303 (common 
> annotations for
> validation) that Jason recently submitted.  If it gets 
> accepted, we'll likely want to support the result in Shale as well.
> 

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