Hi Otis,
For 1) I think you got the point. And that is what we are doing right now. Some of our end users are using Chinese, I am trying to make it right. All these `???` caused by Chinese not supported. For 2) You can send a pull request about how to change the templates. I think that is because of the difference reading habits. But I will accept what you are suggesting, so just send it, and tell us what is your prefer. For 3) The Chinese issues are submitted by End Users, not by our Contributors. sometimes you can't control that, but still trying. > It's been around for a long time, but the only real contributors are from > Naver " Do you mean "not from" Naver. I know Naver a long time, and they never accept the core changes from outsides. And Yes, we need more real contributors. So the discussions related to the project, I will push the further discussions online and also in English. And, thank you very much about your suggestions. We are not new to the world tracing teams, Zipkin, Jaeger, OpenTracing, OpenCensus all have our friends. But our contributors are from several Chinese companies, many of them are not so familiar with English. But they are working on that, hope we can work on that. Also need western people, like you, join our Contributor team, which will actually make us to work in English formally. ------------------ Sheng Wu Apache SkyWalking creator and PPMC member ------------------ Original ------------------ From: "Otis Gospodnetić";<[email protected]>; Date: Thu, Jan 25, 2018 05:20 AM To: "dev"<[email protected]>; Subject: Gitbox -> dev@ feedback Hi, I'm subscribed to dev@ and regularly get emails like this one: tanjianhui1979 commented on issue #776: ??????Spring Cloud??????????? URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/issues/776#issuecomment-360108857 ?????????????????? https://github.com/SkywalkingTest/spring-cloud-example ??????????https://github.com/SkywalkingTest Agent-Benchmarks?https://github.com/SkywalkingTest/Agent-Benchmarks???Benchmark-4??????? ????? A few comments: 1) The ???? stuff is actually Chinese, but doesn't look like Chinese for me, and I *think* that's due to something other than any of my Gmail or computer settings because I don't usually have issues with character sets. Oh, I just checked - I also see ???? on my iPhone: 2) Besides this, note how each of these messages has all this boilerplate in the first few lines. This means the first few lines, which you can see here, are not very informative, so one can't easily see, especially on a mobile phone, whether a message might be of interest and it worth looking at or not. If you push the template stuff further down and put content (e.g. the issue text or the actual user comment, or ...) on top, then people will have easier time deciding which of these to read and which ones are not of interest. 3) Would it make sense to switch to English to attract more people, both users and developers? I don't know if ASF provides any guidance around this, but look at Pinpoint from Naver - it's been around for a long time, but the only real contributors are from Naver - https://github.com/naver/pinpoint/graphs/contributors . As an Apache project you want to do exactly the opposite in order to graduate from the Incubator. I hope this helps. Otis -- Monitoring - Log Management - Alerting - Anomaly Detection Solr & Elasticsearch Consulting Support Training - http://sematext.com/
