Hi Gour,

Thanks for your reply. Given that 0.91 is out, will the next release be
1.0.0?



On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Gour Saha <gs...@hortonworks.com> wrote:

> Hi Manoj,
> It will be very difficult to provide any concrete timelines on the switch.
> At best, it will be incorrect.
>
> However, for the user-community of classic Slider, we will continue to
> support and cut releases (although the frequency will be reduced as you
> have already started to see). As mentioned in the report below - "Slider
> community plans to ship a release in the next quarter with all these
> features and bug fixes.²
>
> -Gour
>
> On 11/2/16, 10:29 AM, "Manoj Samel" <manojsamelt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi Gour,
> >
> >As user of slider (in production), it would be great to have some idea on
> >timelines so to plan to switch from "classic slider" to hadoop branch.
> >Given that hadoop version of  branch itself will be not be a stable /
> >battle tested and that "slider classic" development is slowing down (for
> >right reasons) to move to yarn; the transition period is challenge for
> >slider users.
> >
> >Not sure if this topic belongs to the apache report but wanted to raise as
> >is important for user community
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Manoj
> >
> >On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Gour Saha <gs...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Josh, Billie,
> >> Thank you for reviewing the draft.
> >>
> >> Billie, I will make the change as you suggested. Should I also
> >>explicitly
> >> mention that the funtests have not been moved yet and needs to be
> >> converted to Java before we do so?
> >>
> >> -Gour
> >>
> >> On 11/2/16, 8:22 AM, "Billie Rinaldi" <billie.rina...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Thanks for the draft, Gour. This looks good. The only part I would
> >>change
> >> >is this: "As a result, portions like Slider Core, Application Master,
> >> >Client and Tests had been rolled into Apache Hadoop YARN as
> >>module(s)." It
> >> >isn't clear whether it includes the funtests or not, and all the slider
> >> >code is in a single module in YARN. I'd suggest "As a result, the
> >>Slider
> >> >Core module (including Application Master, Client and Java unit tests)
> >>has
> >> >been rolled into an Apache Hadoop YARN feature branch as a
> >> >hadoop-yarn-slider-core module."
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Gour Saha <gs...@hortonworks.com>
> >>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Please review and provide feedback on the draft below.
> >> >>
> >> >> =========================================================
> >> >> Slider
> >> >>
> >> >> Slider is a collection of tools and technologies to package, deploy,
> >>and
> >> >> manage long running applications on Apache Hadoop YARN clusters.
> >> >>
> >> >> Slider has been incubating since 2014-04-29.
> >> >>
> >> >> Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> >>graduation:
> >> >>
> >> >>  1. Apache Slider community/PPMC has voted to move portions of Slider
> >> >>into
> >> >>     Apache Hadoop YARN as modules. It is possible that the remaining
> >> >>pieces
> >> >>     will be moved at a later point in time or become obsolete or
> >>evolve
> >> >>to
> >> >>     work closely with YARN. Slider PPMC will decide what makes the
> >>most
> >> >>     sense as we progress through this exciting time.
> >> >>  2. Getting more external users
> >> >>  3. Growth of a diverse set of developers/committers/PMC members is
> >>also
> >> >>     crucial towards the final state of Slider
> >> >>
> >> >> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> >> >>aware
> >> >> of?
> >> >>
> >> >>  No.
> >> >>
> >> >> How has the community developed since the last report?
> >> >>
> >> >> The Apache Hadoop YARN community/PMC and Apache Slider community/PPMC
> >> >> had decided to move portions of Slider into YARN, to make fast and
> >> >> significant
> >> >> progress on: YARN-4692 - [Umbrella] Simplified and first-class
> >>support
> >> >>for
> >> >> services in YARN. As a result, portions like Slider Core, Application
> >> >> Master,
> >> >> Client and Tests had been rolled into Apache Hadoop YARN as
> >>module(s).
> >> >> This effort is being captured in: YARN-5079 : Native YARN framework
> >> >>layer
> >> >> for services. All the migrations are happening in a branch (namely
> >> >> yarn-native-services) created of off Hadoop trunk. As a result of
> >>this,
> >> >> we are already seeing interest in the Hadoop committers/PMC, who have
> >> >> started to contribute and submit patches to Slider.
> >> >>
> >> >> In order to support existing users of Slider, and to provide seamless
> >> >> migration, there will be sufficient overlap between the time when a
> >> >>stable
> >> >> state of long running services support is available in some future
> >> >>version
> >> >> of YARN and the time till an independent Slider release is available.
> >> >>The
> >> >> community/PPMC will also determine the future state of Slider as we
> >> >> navigate through these changes.
> >> >>
> >> >> The discussions on the Slider and YARN community DLs can be viewed
> >>here
> >> >>-
> >> >>
> >> >> https://s.apache.org/0hoh
> >> >> https://s.apache.org/MncV
> >> >>
> >> >> For the benefit of those who would like to use Slider Core from the
> >> >> Hadoop codebase, but continue to use classic Slider Agent and legacy
> >> >> app-packages, a new branch (yarn-native-services) has been created
> >> >> in classic Slider repo. This branch retains only the Agent (python)
> >>code
> >> >> and the App Packages. It adds Slider Core module as a Hadoop
> >> >> dependency. This allows users to consume the latest of Slider Core.
> >> >> Future classic Slider releases can be made purely off of this branch.
> >> >>
> >> >> Additionally an effort is being made to create an agent-less provider
> >> >>for
> >> >> legacy app-packages, which could help users to completely migrate to
> >> >> Hadoop codebase for creating long-running services with Slider.
> >> >>Expectation
> >> >> from app-package owners would be to make minor modification of their
> >> >> packages. Primary changes would be to shed the dependency on python
> >> >> Agent code, effectively making packages much simpler than what they
> >> >> look like today in classic Slider.
> >> >>
> >> >> How has the project developed since the last report?
> >> >>
> >> >> There has been fewer bug fixes on the classic Slider side as most of
> >> >> the focus has been on developing features on native YARN services in
> >> >> the Hadoop codebase. Work continues on support for complex services
> >> >> (assemblies) and agent-less applications in Slider. The efforts on
> >> >>Slider
> >> >> Core will continue in the new services branch created in YARN. Few
> >> >> key features which were merged to classic Slider as well were -
> >> >> SLIDER-875 - Ability to create an Uber application package with
> >> >> capability to deploy and manage as a single business app, and
> >> >> SLIDER-1107 - Generate app configuration files in AM. Several issues
> >> >> identified by Coverity scans were resolved as well. Additionally few
> >> >> patches were contributed by the community fixing functional and
> >> >> performance issues. Slider community plans to ship a release in the
> >> >> next quarter with all these features and bug fixes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Date of last release:
> >> >>
> >> >>  2016-06-28 slider-0.91.0-incubating
> >> >>
> >> >> When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
> >> >>
> >> >>  2015-07-07: Yu (Thomas) Liu
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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