Not entirely sure. Given that we have big ones like SLIDER-1107 and
SLIDER-875, we might as well release it as 1.0.0. Any reason for
preferring one over the other?

Would be good to get suggestions from other Slider PPMC members.

-Gour

On 11/2/16, 1:54 PM, "Manoj Samel" <manojsamelt...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi Gour,
>
>Thanks for your reply. Given that 0.91 is out, will the next release be
>1.0.0?
>
>
>
>On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Gour Saha <gs...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Manoj,
>> It will be very difficult to provide any concrete timelines on the
>>switch.
>> At best, it will be incorrect.
>>
>> However, for the user-community of classic Slider, we will continue to
>> support and cut releases (although the frequency will be reduced as you
>> have already started to see). As mentioned in the report below - "Slider
>> community plans to ship a release in the next quarter with all these
>> features and bug fixes.²
>>
>> -Gour
>>
>> On 11/2/16, 10:29 AM, "Manoj Samel" <manojsamelt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi Gour,
>> >
>> >As user of slider (in production), it would be great to have some idea
>>on
>> >timelines so to plan to switch from "classic slider" to hadoop branch.
>> >Given that hadoop version of  branch itself will be not be a stable /
>> >battle tested and that "slider classic" development is slowing down
>>(for
>> >right reasons) to move to yarn; the transition period is challenge for
>> >slider users.
>> >
>> >Not sure if this topic belongs to the apache report but wanted to
>>raise as
>> >is important for user community
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Manoj
>> >
>> >On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Gour Saha <gs...@hortonworks.com>
>>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Josh, Billie,
>> >> Thank you for reviewing the draft.
>> >>
>> >> Billie, I will make the change as you suggested. Should I also
>> >>explicitly
>> >> mention that the funtests have not been moved yet and needs to be
>> >> converted to Java before we do so?
>> >>
>> >> -Gour
>> >>
>> >> On 11/2/16, 8:22 AM, "Billie Rinaldi" <billie.rina...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Thanks for the draft, Gour. This looks good. The only part I would
>> >>change
>> >> >is this: "As a result, portions like Slider Core, Application
>>Master,
>> >> >Client and Tests had been rolled into Apache Hadoop YARN as
>> >>module(s)." It
>> >> >isn't clear whether it includes the funtests or not, and all the
>>slider
>> >> >code is in a single module in YARN. I'd suggest "As a result, the
>> >>Slider
>> >> >Core module (including Application Master, Client and Java unit
>>tests)
>> >>has
>> >> >been rolled into an Apache Hadoop YARN feature branch as a
>> >> >hadoop-yarn-slider-core module."
>> >> >
>> >> >On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Gour Saha <gs...@hortonworks.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Please review and provide feedback on the draft below.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> =========================================================
>> >> >> Slider
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Slider is a collection of tools and technologies to package,
>>deploy,
>> >>and
>> >> >> manage long running applications on Apache Hadoop YARN clusters.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Slider has been incubating since 2014-04-29.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Three most important issues to address in the move towards
>> >>graduation:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  1. Apache Slider community/PPMC has voted to move portions of
>>Slider
>> >> >>into
>> >> >>     Apache Hadoop YARN as modules. It is possible that the
>>remaining
>> >> >>pieces
>> >> >>     will be moved at a later point in time or become obsolete or
>> >>evolve
>> >> >>to
>> >> >>     work closely with YARN. Slider PPMC will decide what makes the
>> >>most
>> >> >>     sense as we progress through this exciting time.
>> >> >>  2. Getting more external users
>> >> >>  3. Growth of a diverse set of developers/committers/PMC members
>>is
>> >>also
>> >> >>     crucial towards the final state of Slider
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
>>to be
>> >> >>aware
>> >> >> of?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  No.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How has the community developed since the last report?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Apache Hadoop YARN community/PMC and Apache Slider
>>community/PPMC
>> >> >> had decided to move portions of Slider into YARN, to make fast and
>> >> >> significant
>> >> >> progress on: YARN-4692 - [Umbrella] Simplified and first-class
>> >>support
>> >> >>for
>> >> >> services in YARN. As a result, portions like Slider Core,
>>Application
>> >> >> Master,
>> >> >> Client and Tests had been rolled into Apache Hadoop YARN as
>> >>module(s).
>> >> >> This effort is being captured in: YARN-5079 : Native YARN
>>framework
>> >> >>layer
>> >> >> for services. All the migrations are happening in a branch (namely
>> >> >> yarn-native-services) created of off Hadoop trunk. As a result of
>> >>this,
>> >> >> we are already seeing interest in the Hadoop committers/PMC, who
>>have
>> >> >> started to contribute and submit patches to Slider.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In order to support existing users of Slider, and to provide
>>seamless
>> >> >> migration, there will be sufficient overlap between the time when
>>a
>> >> >>stable
>> >> >> state of long running services support is available in some future
>> >> >>version
>> >> >> of YARN and the time till an independent Slider release is
>>available.
>> >> >>The
>> >> >> community/PPMC will also determine the future state of Slider as
>>we
>> >> >> navigate through these changes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The discussions on the Slider and YARN community DLs can be viewed
>> >>here
>> >> >>-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://s.apache.org/0hoh
>> >> >> https://s.apache.org/MncV
>> >> >>
>> >> >> For the benefit of those who would like to use Slider Core from
>>the
>> >> >> Hadoop codebase, but continue to use classic Slider Agent and
>>legacy
>> >> >> app-packages, a new branch (yarn-native-services) has been created
>> >> >> in classic Slider repo. This branch retains only the Agent
>>(python)
>> >>code
>> >> >> and the App Packages. It adds Slider Core module as a Hadoop
>> >> >> dependency. This allows users to consume the latest of Slider
>>Core.
>> >> >> Future classic Slider releases can be made purely off of this
>>branch.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Additionally an effort is being made to create an agent-less
>>provider
>> >> >>for
>> >> >> legacy app-packages, which could help users to completely migrate
>>to
>> >> >> Hadoop codebase for creating long-running services with Slider.
>> >> >>Expectation
>> >> >> from app-package owners would be to make minor modification of
>>their
>> >> >> packages. Primary changes would be to shed the dependency on
>>python
>> >> >> Agent code, effectively making packages much simpler than what
>>they
>> >> >> look like today in classic Slider.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How has the project developed since the last report?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There has been fewer bug fixes on the classic Slider side as most
>>of
>> >> >> the focus has been on developing features on native YARN services
>>in
>> >> >> the Hadoop codebase. Work continues on support for complex
>>services
>> >> >> (assemblies) and agent-less applications in Slider. The efforts on
>> >> >>Slider
>> >> >> Core will continue in the new services branch created in YARN. Few
>> >> >> key features which were merged to classic Slider as well were -
>> >> >> SLIDER-875 - Ability to create an Uber application package with
>> >> >> capability to deploy and manage as a single business app, and
>> >> >> SLIDER-1107 - Generate app configuration files in AM. Several
>>issues
>> >> >> identified by Coverity scans were resolved as well. Additionally
>>few
>> >> >> patches were contributed by the community fixing functional and
>> >> >> performance issues. Slider community plans to ship a release in
>>the
>> >> >> next quarter with all these features and bug fixes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Date of last release:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  2016-06-28 slider-0.91.0-incubating
>> >> >>
>> >> >> When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  2015-07-07: Yu (Thomas) Liu
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

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