Hi,
I have to disagree. In contrast to Elasticsearch, most installations I have 
seen for small and medium sized companies were standard single or master/slave 
Solr installations. The reason for that was not complexity, just that if you 
have a standard online shop, the number of products is only millions (and 
that's large already). No need for shards and a single master for indexing is 
perfectly fine. For searching those use the master, too or they create plain 
old replicas. The main reason for this setup is quite clear: have all indexing 
on one node and use others for searching.

So please keep this simple setup!

Uwe

Am May 23, 2021 5:59:45 PM UTC schrieb Alexandre Rafalovitch 
<[email protected]>:
>The worry I have is that this (and previous cloud-first) move pushes
>Solr - even further - into Innovator's Dilemma situation. It is a
>complicated and nuanced worry, so I would understand if nobody else
>shares it. But I felt it was still worth mentioning.
>
>The core issue is that even though Solr is a great fit for smaller
>projects with a standalone mode, we are increasingly making it more
>and more complicated to understand/discover. The tutorials switching
>to cloud mode was one of those "straws". This proposes to be another.
>
>Which means the people will just assume Solr is for gigantic projects
>and avoid it all together, shrinking our total ecosystem even further.
>I see that already in public discussions, whenever Solr is mentioned.
>
>Regards,
>   Alex.
>P.s. I also feel that Schrodinger's "Reference branch" is also a
>factor in this discussion, but that is an even messier point to try
>putting in words
> in a balanced way.
>P.p.s. Also, when we say "docker container could run in cloud mode",
>do we still mean a single-node with built-in Zookeeper (sharing Jan's
>worry with that) or something that actually rolls-out 2x+1 Zookeeper
>nodes, 2+ Solr nodes, etc as a "first glimpse" setup?
>
>On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 20:00, Jan Høydahl <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>
>> I'd be all for it.
>>
>> Possible side effect is that people perhaps get an impression that
>the built-in Zookeeper is production ready.
>> Another side effect is that users that on purpose run Solr standalone
>will now need to run with -l flag to avoid starting in coud mode by
>default. But that's their fault if they don't read the upgrade notes of
>course...
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> 21. mai 2021 kl. 17:28 skrev Houston Putman <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> Currently when running bin/solr, and therefore when using the Solr
>Docker image, if you start solr without specifying any options, it will
>start in Standalone mode. However, many of the tutorials and examples
>we give are for Solr Cloud. And there are useful features for new users
>that are not supported in standalone mode, including the new
>schema-designer UI. I think it would be good for new users to the
>project to use the generally recommended running mode (cloud) by
>default.
>>
>> Clearly this won't be done in 8.x. I think it would be ok to make the
>switch in Solr 9, but maybe it's something we aim for Solr 10 instead.
>In the meantime we should probably include a backwards-compatible
>standalone flag (-l/-standalone) that will start to be used once the
>default mode is switched.
>>
>> There has been some discussion about deprecating standalone Solr, I
>want to emphasize this is not at all part of the discussion of this
>thread.
>>
>> - Houston
>>
>>
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