> > What if, when you run bin/solr create -h, we actually detect if you are in > solrcloud mode and then delegate to either create_collection or create_core > to decide the help output?
If we are going to have the command, this is absolutely what it should do. And with -h, it can say that it is in <> mode, and that to create a collection/core then please ensure you are using the right options. (Basically giving them the instructions to switch to cloud/standalone if they somehow are in the wrong mode) - Houston On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:03 AM Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote: > Some good food for thought here…. I hadn’t really dug quite so much > into the specifics of the flow. > > Do we think that having a generic “create” is making things simpler, or > being more verbose and having create_core and create_collection suffice? > I guess I am wondering if there are good arguments for keeping create? > Mostly because when you run “bin/solr create -h”, we give the help output > for the “create_collection” command… > > One thought…. What if, when you run bin/solr create -h, we actually > detect if you are in solrcloud mode and then delegate to either > create_collection or create_core to decide the help output? > > > > > On Jul 9, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Shawn Heisey <apa...@elyograg.org> wrote: > > > > On 7/8/23 15:03, Ishan Chattopadhyaya wrote: > >> I'd rather we remove all three and encourage users to issue API commands > >> via curl. > >> I'm very much in favour of the scripts being used for only essential > tasks, > >> but not for things where the API can be used. With the APIs being the > >> primary means to achieve tasks, users develop more familiarity when > >> starting out. > > > > If configs are already uploaded to ZK, creating collections works with > just the API in cloud mode. The bin/solr option will do the config upload > for you before creating the collection. > > > > Out of the box, standalone mode can't create a core completely with the > API. If standalone mode is configured with configsets, then it can. If we > do keep the bin/solr create option for standalone mode, I would like for it > to be able to detect what user Solr is running as and fail if the create > command is running under a different user. > > > > There has been discussion about making future versions of Solr default > to cloud mode. The API limitation for creating cores in standalone mode is > one thing in favor of that change. > > > > I have been trying to think of ways we can automate the deployment of a > SolrCloud install, especially a high availability cluster that has three or > more nodes. We have a solr service installer, I think we should also > provide a ZK service installer. I don't think it would be a good plan to > have that whole idea use the embedded ZK, because with the embedded ZK, > stopping or restarting Solr also takes down one of the ZK nodes. > > > > Even though I personally don't think of Windows as a viable platform for > running Solr, others do, so I think there should be service installers for > Windows. Picking a service wrapper is something we could bikeshed forever > on. Another thing to decide is whether to support 32-bit Windows or just > 64-bit. I think it should just be 64-bit. > > > > Thanks, > > Shawn > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > > > > _______________________ > Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 | > http://www.opensourceconnections.com < > http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy < > http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal> > Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed < > https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw> > > This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be > Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of > whether attachments are marked as such. > >
