Chris Santerre wrote:
>There are no guarantees in this world. And a chance at getting in the main
>is about as good as Daniel baking me a cake. :) 


At least Daniel is consistent :)


>Again, the process usually goes:
>1) I had idea, here is some code.
>2) Code seems worthy, we shall test.
>3) S/O is more wonderful then the invention of USB thunmbdrives.


Yup.


>4) *NOW* lets talk about -possibly- adding it to SA. 


Yup.


>5) ????
>6) profit
>
>You are skipping to number 6 ;)  


Hardly.  Planning is something businesses do.


>(Alert, for the funny impaired, the above was a joke.)

:)


>>>I see alot of talk to support what is now vaporware that will help the
>>>community by 'an order of magnitude'. 
>>
>>
>>I am have data which tells me it is much better than Razor.  
>>That I know with reasonable (statistical) confidence.  What 
>>could be the boost to SA is unknown, although a boost from 
>>95+% to 99.5+% (5% to 0.5% fnr) would be "an order of magnitude".
>
>Exactly, you am have. We don't. 


Note the following data is from Feb. 7, so is out-of-date.  We only launched in 
Dec, so rapid flux.  My account is up to 99.7% now.


>Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:31:06 +0800
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: Shelby Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Significant evidence of AccuSpam's 98+% FNR
>
>Several high volume user accounts (% total spam correctly classified):
>
>Note in comparison I have seen "standard" (no training) SpamAssassin reported 
>in a 
>reputable study (for a single test user) at 92.5%.
>
>99.13% for 1840 spams and 233 non-spams (Shelby's email account)
>99.86% for 2844 spams and 41 non-spams
>98.96% for 3354 spams and 66 non-spams
>99.21% for 3786 spams and 93 non-spams
>99.71% for 2070 spams and 43 non-spams
>99.11% for 1807 spams and 30 non-spams
>97.92% for 1301 spams and 81 non-spams
>99.17% for 727 spams and 13 non-spams
>93.92% for 1250 spams and 166 non-spams
>98.42% for 317 spams and 111 non-spams
>95.79% for 451 spams and 110 non-spams
>99.28% for 2095 spams and 243 non-spams
>99.20% for 1741 spams and 29 non-spams
>99.47% for 187 spams and 18 non-spams
>100% for 1717 spams and 24 non-spams
>98.09% for 943 spams and 18 non-spams
>98.43% for 3384 spams and 92 non-spams
>99.78% for 892 spams and 70 non-spams
>100% for 1545 spams and 55 non-spams
>98.82% for 850 spams and 27 non-spams
>98.10% for 1314 spams and 105 non-spams
>97.14% for 1538 spams and 23 non-spams
>97.94% for 5618 spams and 72 non-spams
>97.80% for 2779 spams and 382 non-spams
>100% for 1885 spams and 22 non-spams
>93.00% for 799 spams and 353 non-spams
>96.67% for 751 spams and 29 non-spams
>97.97% for 1529 spams and 33 non-spams



>>If I sell services that include email and use Razor on that 
>>email, then I am selling "...commercial embedded software 
>>solutions...".
>
>Yes! If you are selling a service. SA doesn't sell anything. Although Theo
>once tried to sell me a copy of the Pamela Lee.....nevermind. :) 

What are they going for? :)

>Most people who submit to SA don't care where or how their stuff gets added.
>Only that it helps the community. Yes, the word 'profit' doesn't sit well
>with most of us. But you are in no way hampered by the fact that you want to
>earn a buck. 

I assume most of you did not expend 1000+ man-hours on your contributions.

Sharing the pool result of smaller contributions (open source) works well for 
some things, but not for all things.




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