This is a Jupyter based environment where we would like to put off binding
a Spark session/context to the notebook until needed. In a YARN cluster
simply bootstrapping the Spark context/session will require a couple of
containers to be allocated which is wasteful unless the user really does
perform (optional) Spark processing.

I opened a JIRA https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-20440 and
attached PR 17731 to it as I think it better conveys both the problem and
solution.

Regards,
Vin.

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Felix Cheung <felixcheun...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> This seems some what unique. Most notebook environment, that I know of,
> has a preset processing engine tied to the notebook; in other words when
> Spark is selected as the engine then it is always initialized, not lazily
> as you describe.
>
> What is this notebook platform you use?
>
> _____________________________
> From: Vin J <winjos...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 12:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [SparkR] - options around setting up SparkSession /
> SparkContext
> To: Felix Cheung <felixcheun...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: <dev@spark.apache.org>
>
>
>
> This is for a notebook env that has the spark session/context bootstrapped
> for the user. There are settings that are user specific so not all of those
> can go into the spark-defaults.conf - such settings need to be dynamically
> applied when creating the session/context.
>
> In Scala/Python, I would bootstrap a "spark" handle similar to what
> spark-shell / psyspark-shell startup scripts do. In my case the
> bootstrapped object could be of a wrapper class that took care of whatever
> customization I needed while exposing the regular  SparkSession
> scala/python API. The user uses this object as he/she would use a regular
> SparkSession to submit work to the Spark cluster. Since I am certain there
> is no other way for users to perform Spark work except to go via the
> bootstrapped object, I can achieve my objective of delaying creation of
> SparkSession/Context until a call comes to my custom spark object.
>
> If I want to do the same in R, and let users write SparkR code as they
> normally would, but bootstrapping a SparkContext/Session for them, then I
> hit the issues as I explained earlier. There is no single entry point for
> SparkContext/Session in SparkR API and so to achieve lazy creation of
> SparkContext/session, it looks like the only  option is to do some trickery
> with the SparkR:::.sparkREnv$.sparkRjsc and SparkR:::.sparkREnv$.sparkRsession
> vars.
>
> Regards,
> Vin.
>
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:33 AM, Felix Cheung <felixcheun...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How would you handle this in Scala?
>>
>> If you are adding a wrapper func like getSparkSession for Scala, and have
>> your users call it, can't you do that same in SparkR? After all, while true
>> you don't need a SparkSession object to call the R API, someone still needs
>> to call sparkR.session() to initial the current session?
>>
>> Also what Spark environment you want to customize?
>>
>> Can these be set in environment variables or via spark-defaults.conf
>> spark.apache.org/docs/latest/configuration.html#dynamically-loading-
>> spark-properties
>>
>>
>> _____________________________
>> From: Vin J <winjos...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 2:22 PM
>> Subject: [SparkR] - options around setting up SparkSession / SparkContext
>> To: <dev@spark.apache.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to make an R environment available where the
>> SparkSession/SparkContext needs to be setup a specific way. The user simply
>> accesses this environment and executes his/her code. If the user code does
>> not access any Spark functions, I do not want to create a SparkContext
>> unnecessarily.
>>
>> In Scala/Python environments, the user can't access spark without first
>> referencing SparkContext / SparkSession classes. So the above (lazy and/or
>> custom SparkSession/Context creation) is easily met by offering
>> sparkContext/sparkSession handles to the user that are either wrappers on
>> Spark's classes or have lazy evaluation semantics. This way only when the
>> user accesses these handles to sparkContext/Session will the
>> SparkSession/Context actually get set up without the user needing to know
>> all the details about initing the SparkContext/Session.
>>
>> However, achieving the same doesn't appear to be so straightforward in R.
>> From what I see, executing sparkR.session(...) sets up private variables in
>> SparkR:::.sparkREnv (.sparkRjsc , .sparkRsession). The way SparkR api
>> works, a user doesn't need a handle to the spark session as such. Executing
>> functions like so:  "df <- as.DataFrame(..)" implicitly access the private
>> vars in SparkR:::.sparkREnv to get access to the sparkContext etc that are
>> expected to have been created by a prior call to
>> sparkR.session()/sparkR.init() etc.
>>
>> Therefore, to inject any custom/lazy behavior into this I don't see a way
>> except through having my code (that sits outside of Spark) apply a
>> delayedAssign() or a makeActiveBinding( ) on SparkR:::.sparkRsession /
>> .sparkRjsc  variables. This way when spark code internally references them,
>> my wrapper/lazy code gets executed to do whatever I need done.
>>
>> However, I am seeing some limitations of applying even this approach to
>> SparkR - it will not work unless some minor changes are made in the SparkR
>> code. But, before I opened a PR that would do these changes in SparkR I
>> wanted to check if there was a better way to achieve this? I am far less
>> than an R expert, and could be missing something here.
>>
>> If you'd rather see this in a JIRA and a PR, let me know and I'll go
>> ahead and open one.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vin.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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