Sorry dude, that sucks. I'll try and open the mailing list to other emails as well. Can you create a Spark ticket in the ASF INFRA ticket [1] project so we don't forget?
Cheers, Chris [1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: [email protected] WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: Andy Konwinski <[email protected]> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 1:38 PM To: jpluser <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: A wiki for Spark (on Apache infra) >There is also the frustrating fact that the Apache email spam filter (for >the dev list) is bouncing emails from my gmail address since it thinks >I'm sending spam... > > >Sigh. > >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Mail Delivery Subsystem ><[email protected]> wrote: > >Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: > > [email protected] > >Technical details of permanent failure: > >Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server >for the recipient domain spark.incubator.apache.org ><http://spark.incubator.apache.org/> by mx1.us.apache.org ><http://mx1.us.apache.org/>. > [140.211.11.136]. > >The error that the other server returned was: >552 spam score (5.0) exceeded threshold >(HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLACK > > >----- Original message ----- > >DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; > d=gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>; s=20120113; > >h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to > :cc:content-type; > > bh=JNCvkWn5sku7r9R4cADEwztjnt3on6aUgFuiqVQkVpw=; > >b=g91O9eTNyfAHuyKidHN6AeP6hju9ynxflJruSCsRZFXmZ1MvLKw3oQwyTXeOgKwJEA > >VCEK0wsLqln9o6+Kneu5Dq3x0Maro5Vf0S2ZL67NPPfzvL1csSyXYTT6Bfh0f98trAD3 > >3v0jTW96qhIyRXJ0gS6rpXNK8NydSqEZfhyzOdmb4seWsJAyFjmuta7qZgrCFTrtUUPF > >xDaXGsQb3OqirZwarUWszvlQjkJNkeWPGLurPESg5XacB7ztjP1dSV/N0ruXINh5ueix > >yq9FLEvA1HFIN9pdDBb40XE6BJNho8UO7E97qwigkJFK11cyxHxwiBLoiYjhThCG3z+l > iBIw== >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Received: by 10.112.142.66 with SMTP id ru2mr7448534lbb.7.1372451727361; > Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:35:27 -0700 (PDT) >Received: by 10.112.75.6 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:35:27 -0700 (PDT) >In-Reply-To: <cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected] ><mailto:cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected]>> >References: ><calezfqxh2ffs-lpbmkk-anjvuw-6g-pzqpvj+ppyxe7axp+...@mail.gmail.com ><mailto:CALEZFQxH2ffS-LpbMkk-anJVuW-6G-pZQpvJ%2BPPyXe7aXp%[email protected] >.com>> > <cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected] ><mailto:cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected]>> >Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:35:27 -0700 >Message-ID: ><CALEZFQwuQA3OhVwOpDp2aqqo1e796Z1ZagOSzSANXVHasmj=p...@mail.gmail.com> >Subject: Re: A wiki for Spark (on Apache infra) > >From: Andy Konwinski <[email protected]> >To: "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <[email protected]> >Cc: "[email protected]" ><[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c37aaaae4e2104e03cd142 > >Thanks for responding Chris! Responses inline. > >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) < >[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Andy, >> >> The mailing lists especially need to be at the ASF. Basically this is >> because the business needs to be conducted here since if it didn't >>happen >> on the ML, it didn't happen. Also MLs help to show the health/activity >> of the community and if it's not here at the ASF it's not an ASF >>project. >> >> There are some precedents e.g., with things like Maven for them to use >> other JIRAs, etc., but I really don't like the idea there and it caused >> a lot of ill will etc. >> >> Any particular reason you were wondering? Mainly b/c of the overhead or >> my lack of replies recently? Sorry about that if it was I was underwater >> in DC working on a DARPA project, but am back in business now and >> will try and get some of this stuff moving along. Sorry again. >> > >I asked for a couple of reasons actually. One of the reasons, and why I >asked on this thread which is supposed to be about our wiki, is because >one >of our active developers, Evan Chan, asked in this thread if we have to >move at all, in his words: > >>No matter what, is there any way we could keep the google groups for an >>Apache project? I think my least favorite feature of most Apache >>projects is the mailing list..... really hard to subscribe, post, >>search, reply, etc. > > >I actually agree that google groups provides a much easier to use >interface >for mailing lists than Apache's mailing list software. However, from what >I >know about Apache, I think that keeping our lists on non ASF infra is a >battle we probably won't win (without accruing a lot of ill will, as you >point out). > >I have a few other thoughts on this topic. However, to keep email subject >and contents aligned, let's continue this conversation on the email thread >you created with the subject "Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache >Spark >podling: Created!)" instead of here :) > >Andy > > >> Cheers, >> Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Andy Konwinski ><[email protected]> wrote: > >Thanks for responding Chris! Responses inline. > > >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) ><[email protected]> wrote: > >Hi Andy, > >The mailing lists especially need to be at the ASF. Basically this is >because the business needs to be conducted here since if it didn't happen >on the ML, it didn't happen. Also MLs help to show the health/activity >of the community and if it's not here at the ASF it's not an ASF project. > >There are some precedents e.g., with things like Maven for them to use >other JIRAs, etc., but I really don't like the idea there and it caused >a lot of ill will etc. > >Any particular reason you were wondering? Mainly b/c of the overhead or >my lack of replies recently? Sorry about that if it was I was underwater >in DC working on a DARPA project, but am back in business now and >will try and get some of this stuff moving along. Sorry again. > > > > > >I asked for a couple of reasons actually. One of the reasons, and why I >asked on this thread which is supposed to be about our wiki, is because >one of our active developers, Evan Chan, asked in this thread if we have >to move at all, in his words: > > > > > > > >>No matter what, is there any way we could keep the google groups for an > > > > >>Apache project? I think my least favorite feature of most Apache > > >>projects is the mailing list..... really hard to subscribe, post, > > >>search, reply, etc. > > > > > > > >I actually agree that google groups provides a much easier to use >interface for mailing lists than Apache's mailing list software. However, >from what I know about Apache, I think that keeping our lists on non ASF >infra is a battle we > probably won't win (without accruing a lot of ill will, as you point >out). > > >I have a few other thoughts on this topic. However, to keep email subject >and contents aligned, let's continue this conversation on the email >thread you created with the subject "Mailing list transition (was Re: >Apache Spark podling: > Created!)" instead of here :) > > >Andy > > > > >Cheers, >Chris > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >Senior Computer Scientist >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >Email: [email protected] >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andy Konwinski <[email protected]> > >Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:32 PM >To: "[email protected]" ><[email protected]> >Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, >jpluser <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: A wiki for Spark (on Apache infra) > > >>Chris M., is there any precedent for a project not moving mailing lists >>to Apache infra? Are there rules about it? >>Andy >>On Jun 25, 2013 1:31 PM, "Evan Chan" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>I think a wiki that has plugins for diagrams would be pretty kickass and >>valuable for documentation. See: >>http://ffeathers.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/drawing-diagrams-on-a-wiki-page >>/ >> >> >>No matter what, is there any way we could keep the google groups for an >>Apache project? I think my least favorite feature of most Apache >>projects is the mailing list..... really hard to subscribe, post, >>search, reply, etc. >> >> >> >>On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:39:52 AM UTC-7, Andy Konwinski wrote: >> >>As part of the migration process to Apache, I think we should request a >>wiki for the Spark project (and after that we should set up and advertise >>a long overdue PoweredBy page for Spark on that wiki). My personal >>preference is for a Confluence wiki but >> I believe we can alternately ask for a MoinMoin wiki. >> >> >> >>Do others have thoughts about (1) asking for a wiki, (2) which type we >>request, or (3) anything else related to this? >> >> >>Andy >> >> >> >> >>-- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"Spark Developers" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>email to >> >>[email protected] >><mailto:spark-developers%[email protected]> > > >><mailto:spark-developers%[email protected] >><mailto:spark-developers%[email protected]>>. >>For more options, visit >>https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out > >><https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
