Hey Andy, Ahh, ok that sucks. Can you send a mail to [email protected] with the Message-IDs and they can investigate? Feel free to copy me (though I am already subscribed to the list).
Cheers, Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: [email protected] WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: Andy Konwinski <[email protected]> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:56 PM To: jpluser <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: A wiki for Spark (on Apache infra) >Hey Chris, this isn't a particular setting such as the list not accepting >mail from other domain names (that was the case for [email protected] >but doesn't seem to be the case for the dev list). In this case, it seems >that the spam filter (I > think it must be Spam Assasin) is marking my email with too low of a >spam score to not get counted as spam. > > >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) ><[email protected]> wrote: > >Sorry dude, that sucks. I'll try and open the mailing list to other emails >as well. Can you create a Spark ticket in the ASF >INFRA ticket [1] project so we don't forget? > >Cheers, >Chris > >[1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >Senior Computer Scientist >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >Email: [email protected] >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andy Konwinski <[email protected]> > >Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 1:38 PM >To: jpluser <[email protected]> >Cc: "[email protected]" ><[email protected]>, "[email protected]" ><[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: A wiki for Spark (on Apache infra) > > >>There is also the frustrating fact that the Apache email spam filter (for >>the dev list) is bouncing emails from my gmail address since it thinks >>I'm sending spam... >> >> >>Sigh. >> >>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Mail Delivery Subsystem >><[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: >> >> [email protected] >> >>Technical details of permanent failure: >> >>Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server >>for the recipient domain >spark.incubator.apache.org <http://spark.incubator.apache.org> > >><http://spark.incubator.apache.org/> by >mx1.us.apache.org <http://mx1.us.apache.org> >><http://mx1.us.apache.org/>. >> [140.211.11.136]. >> >>The error that the other server returned was: >>552 spam score (5.0) exceeded threshold >>(HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLACK >> >> >>----- Original message ----- >> >>DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; > >> d=gmail.com <http://gmail.com> <http://gmail.com/>; s=20120113; >> >>h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to >> :cc:content-type; >> >> bh=JNCvkWn5sku7r9R4cADEwztjnt3on6aUgFuiqVQkVpw=; >> >>b=g91O9eTNyfAHuyKidHN6AeP6hju9ynxflJruSCsRZFXmZ1MvLKw3oQwyTXeOgKwJEA >> >>VCEK0wsLqln9o6+Kneu5Dq3x0Maro5Vf0S2ZL67NPPfzvL1csSyXYTT6Bfh0f98trAD3 >> >>3v0jTW96qhIyRXJ0gS6rpXNK8NydSqEZfhyzOdmb4seWsJAyFjmuta7qZgrCFTrtUUPF >> >>xDaXGsQb3OqirZwarUWszvlQjkJNkeWPGLurPESg5XacB7ztjP1dSV/N0ruXINh5ueix >> >>yq9FLEvA1HFIN9pdDBb40XE6BJNho8UO7E97qwigkJFK11cyxHxwiBLoiYjhThCG3z+l >> iBIw== >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>X-Received: by 10.112.142.66 with SMTP id >>ru2mr7448534lbb.7.1372451727361; >> Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:35:27 -0700 (PDT) >>Received: by 10.112.75.6 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:35:27 -0700 (PDT) >>In-Reply-To: <cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected] >><mailto:cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected]> > >><mailto:cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected] >><mailto:cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected]>>> >>References: >><calezfqxh2ffs-lpbmkk-anjvuw-6g-pzqpvj+ppyxe7axp+...@mail.gmail.com >><mailto:calezfqxh2ffs-lpbmkk-anjvuw-6g-pzqpvj%2bppyxe7axp%[email protected] >>l.com> >><mailto:calezfqxh2ffs-lpbmkk-anjvuw-6g-pzqpvj%2bppyxe7axp%[email protected] >>l >><mailto:CALEZFQxH2ffS-LpbMkk-anJVuW-6G-pZQpvJ%252BPPyXe7aXp%252BbCQ@mail. >>gmail> >>.com>> >> <cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected] >><mailto:cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected]> >><mailto:cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected] >><mailto:cdf3356d.ebfb7%[email protected]>>> >>Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:35:27 -0700 >>Message-ID: >><CALEZFQwuQA3OhVwOpDp2aqqo1e796Z1ZagOSzSANXVHasmj=p...@mail.gmail.com> >>Subject: Re: A wiki for Spark (on Apache infra) >> >>From: Andy Konwinski <[email protected]> >>To: "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <[email protected]> >>Cc: "[email protected]" >><[email protected]>, >> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>boundary=001a11c37aaaae4e2104e03cd142 >> >>Thanks for responding Chris! Responses inline. >> >>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) < >>[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Andy, >>> >>> The mailing lists especially need to be at the ASF. Basically this is >>> because the business needs to be conducted here since if it didn't >>>happen >>> on the ML, it didn't happen. Also MLs help to show the health/activity >>> of the community and if it's not here at the ASF it's not an ASF >>>project. >>> >>> There are some precedents e.g., with things like Maven for them to use >>> other JIRAs, etc., but I really don't like the idea there and it caused >>> a lot of ill will etc. >>> >>> Any particular reason you were wondering? Mainly b/c of the overhead or >>> my lack of replies recently? Sorry about that if it was I was >>>underwater >>> in DC working on a DARPA project, but am back in business now and >>> will try and get some of this stuff moving along. Sorry again. >>> >> >>I asked for a couple of reasons actually. One of the reasons, and why I >>asked on this thread which is supposed to be about our wiki, is because >>one >>of our active developers, Evan Chan, asked in this thread if we have to >>move at all, in his words: >> >>>No matter what, is there any way we could keep the google groups for an >>>Apache project? I think my least favorite feature of most Apache >>>projects is the mailing list..... really hard to subscribe, post, >>>search, reply, etc. >> >> >>I actually agree that google groups provides a much easier to use >>interface >>for mailing lists than Apache's mailing list software. However, from what >>I >>know about Apache, I think that keeping our lists on non ASF infra is a >>battle we probably won't win (without accruing a lot of ill will, as you >>point out). >> >>I have a few other thoughts on this topic. However, to keep email subject >>and contents aligned, let's continue this conversation on the email >>thread >>you created with the subject "Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache >>Spark >>podling: Created!)" instead of here :) >> >>Andy >> >> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Andy Konwinski >><[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Thanks for responding Chris! Responses inline. >> >> >>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) >><[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Hi Andy, >> >>The mailing lists especially need to be at the ASF. Basically this is >>because the business needs to be conducted here since if it didn't happen >>on the ML, it didn't happen. Also MLs help to show the health/activity >>of the community and if it's not here at the ASF it's not an ASF project. >> >>There are some precedents e.g., with things like Maven for them to use >>other JIRAs, etc., but I really don't like the idea there and it caused >>a lot of ill will etc. >> >>Any particular reason you were wondering? Mainly b/c of the overhead or >>my lack of replies recently? Sorry about that if it was I was underwater >>in DC working on a DARPA project, but am back in business now and >>will try and get some of this stuff moving along. Sorry again. >> >> >> >> >> >>I asked for a couple of reasons actually. One of the reasons, and why I >>asked on this thread which is supposed to be about our wiki, is because >>one of our active developers, Evan Chan, asked in this thread if we have >>to move at all, in his words: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>No matter what, is there any way we could keep the google groups for an >> >> >> >> >>>Apache project? I think my least favorite feature of most Apache >> >> >>>projects is the mailing list..... really hard to subscribe, post, >> >> >>>search, reply, etc. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I actually agree that google groups provides a much easier to use >>interface for mailing lists than Apache's mailing list software. However, >>from what I know about Apache, I think that keeping our lists on non ASF >>infra is a battle we >> probably won't win (without accruing a lot of ill will, as you point >>out). >> >> >>I have a few other thoughts on this topic. However, to keep email subject >>and contents aligned, let's continue this conversation on the email >>thread you created with the subject "Mailing list transition (was Re: >>Apache Spark podling: >> Created!)" instead of here :) >> >> >>Andy >> >> >> >> >>Cheers, >>Chris >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>Senior Computer Scientist >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>Email: [email protected] >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Andy Konwinski <[email protected]> >> >>Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:32 PM >>To: "[email protected]" >><[email protected]> >>Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, >>jpluser <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: A wiki for Spark (on Apache infra) >> >> >>>Chris M., is there any precedent for a project not moving mailing lists >>>to Apache infra? Are there rules about it? >>>Andy >>>On Jun 25, 2013 1:31 PM, "Evan Chan" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>I think a wiki that has plugins for diagrams would be pretty kickass and >>>valuable for documentation. See: >>>http://ffeathers.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/drawing-diagrams-on-a-wiki-pag >>>e >>>/ >>> >>> >>>No matter what, is there any way we could keep the google groups for an >>>Apache project? I think my least favorite feature of most Apache >>>projects is the mailing list..... really hard to subscribe, post, >>>search, reply, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>>On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:39:52 AM UTC-7, Andy Konwinski wrote: >>> >>>As part of the migration process to Apache, I think we should request a >>>wiki for the Spark project (and after that we should set up and >>>advertise >>>a long overdue PoweredBy page for Spark on that wiki). My personal >>>preference is for a Confluence wiki but >>> I believe we can alternately ask for a MoinMoin wiki. >>> >>> >>> >>>Do others have thoughts about (1) asking for a wiki, (2) which type we >>>request, or (3) anything else related to this? >>> >>> >>>Andy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>Groups >>>"Spark Developers" group. >>>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>an >>>email to >>> >>>[email protected] >>><mailto:spark-developers%[email protected]> >>><mailto:spark-developers%[email protected] >>><mailto:spark-developers%[email protected]>> >> >> > > >>><mailto:spark-developers%[email protected] >>><mailto:spark-developers%[email protected]> >>><mailto:spark-developers%[email protected] >>><mailto:spark-developers%[email protected]>>>. >>>For more options, visit >>>https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out >> >>><https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >
