Thanks for the pointer Aaron. Very helpful.

I won't harp on this any more after this email: my reading is that the main
concern is archiving discussion, which could be achieved using a separate
mailing list. Major decisions should clearly happen on the dev list so
everyone is informed, but I don't see a situation where that hadn't been
happening anyway (which is why I read the dev list regularly, sometimes
look at the archives, and am struggling with the Github messages and
pitying those not using Gmail filters).


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Aaron Davidson <ilike...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't have an official policy to point you to, but Chris Mattmann (our
> Apache project mentor) summarized some of the points in this thread, and
> here is the original concern that caused us to make this change:
>
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201402.mbox/%3CCAAS6=7hkCiT093nXVMcUus8Z-5XCDn=cQ5trjN_Kz9ARe9H=r...@mail.gmail.com%3E
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Ethan Jewett <esjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Or not off-list. Sorry folks :-) Anyone should feel free to educate me
> > either on the policy or on mailing list use ;-)
> >
> > On Friday, February 21, 2014, Ethan Jewett <esjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Aaron,
> > >
> > > Off-list message here. Can you point me to this policy? Due to some
> > > previous experiences here, I'm under the impression that it doesn't
> > exist.
> > > I can't find it on the Apache website.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ethan
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2014, Aaron Davidson <ilike...@gmail.com
> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ilike...@gmail.com');>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> This is due, unfortunately, to Apache policies that all
> > >> development-related
> > >> discussion should take place on the dev list. As we are attempting to
> > >> graduate from an incubating project to an Apache top level project,
> > there
> > >> were some concerns raised about GitHub, and the fastest solution to
> > avoid
> > >> conflict related to our graduation was to CC dev@ for all GitHub
> > >> messages.
> > >> Once our graduation is complete, we may be able to find a less noisy
> way
> > >> of
> > >> dealing with these messages.
> > >>
> > >> In the meantime, one simple solution is to filter out all messages
> that
> > >> come from g...@git.apache.org and are destined to
> > >> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Gerard Maas <gerard.m...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > +1 please.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Michael Ernest <
> > mfern...@cloudera.com
> > >> > >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > +1
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Heiko Braun <
> > >> ike.br...@googlemail.com
> > >> > > >wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Wouldn't it be better to move the github messages to a dedicated
> > >> email
> > >> > > > list?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Regards, Heiko
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Michael Ernest
> > >> > > Sr. Solutions Consultant
> > >> > > West Coast
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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