Hi,

I understand Enrico and I think his big picture is valid. From the
discussion I see that we may have to work on our commons layer and
simplify that one.

I see that Reto is pointing a lot on the use of those legacy
technologies. Work has started to remove them but this was not adopted
completely, yet. Defining a slim commons-2.0 sounds like a reasonable
approach to me. Having a sound definition of how things should work in
commons, we could plan for a sprint to adapt to the new commons in one
step. This would clean our code base and bring everything back on the
same level.

Best,
 - Fabian

2013/5/27 Reto Bachmann-Gmür <[email protected]>:
>>
>> I can also not see any of such issues. If someone wants to make major
>> changes to commons ... open a branch; implement the change; port some
>> components to give examples on how the new structure should look like
>> and agree on it within the community; upon acceptance give the
>> developers time to adapt their components to the new structure; merge
>> the new things back into trunk.
>>
>
> I'm not sure why you think creating branches would help.
>
> Example of pervasive legacy technologies usage include:
> - Non RESTfull Http Endpoints: The technologies to create semantic RESTfull
> services (i.e. services that can be consumed by client having nothing but a
> singe entry URI and understand mime types and ontologies) is there. It is
> exemplified and supported by archetypes, yet most of our code still has
> tightly coupled HTML interfaces.
> - Using Jersey specific classes: From my understanding of the discussions
> on the list there is a consensus that we should write our code so that it's
> portable across Jax-Rs implementations. The code to support things like
> multipart form without jersey dependencies  has been in trunk for a while.
> - ServletContext to access services / communication between components. We
> could have a branch where this ugly hack is no longer available, but  doubt
> this would be incentive enough for people to remove this stuff.
> - Use of some scattered around ontological terms from non-standard
> ontologies hardcoded in some java.
> - Whiteboard pattern for JAX-RS resources: It's there, still most code is
> using the WebFragements
>
> Stanbol is currently missing it's goal of providing RESTfull services and
> the size of commons also affects the re-usability as OSGi components. An
> approach would be to define a slimmed down "commons 2.0" designed to
> enforce a design that leads to the creation of Semantic RESTfull services
> and that comprise a smaller set of library so that Stanbol can more easily
> be run within any OSGi application and with any JAX-RS implementation. If
> we decide to go this way we could set a timeline to phase out commons 1.0.
> This would be more work than just cutting out some components but this
> takes into account that the size of a code base isn't the main criterion
> for it's maintainability.
>
> Cheers,
> Reto



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