On 12/07/2015 02:03 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Up to yesterday I made 89 contributions to this project. But to no avail > regarding being noticed/recognized. This must be a 'very special project'.
I can only speak for myself, of course, but your contributions have been noted. With regards, Daniel. > > You won't get more people on board when at organisational level it is only > intended for the incrowd. See at > https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?steve, with only the very > privileged people in the PMC (of which 5 hae even more specific > roles/functions at board and exec level). > > It just doesn't come across as 'open' with the contributors of the other > kind. > > But maybe it is supposed that way. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On 11/17/2015 12:06 AM, Sean Kelly wrote: >>> The total of two---count 'em, 2---threads on the u...@steve.apache.org >>> mailing list since December 2014 might be an indication of a lack of >>> outside interest. >> >> Well that veered off topic fast :) >> >> two threads on user@ is probably because we have _no release_ to offer >> to people. There is one active developer and perhaps 3-4 active >> contributors, and yes, that's an issue. We need to test what we have and >> consider releasing at some point, even if it's just pySTeVe we release. >> But that requires people that are interested in testing and releasing. >> >> I don't see how combining STeVe and Whimsy would solve much - if >> anything, it would simply create two diaspora-projects within a TLP. >> >> Before we start considering drastic measures like combining TLPs or >> moving to the attic, I would strongly urge the committers and PMC >> members to at least try to help out with promoting STeVe and getting >> some new blood to the project. If that fails completely, then fine - but >> by golly, we should at least TRY. >> >> I for one will start looking for new people to help out with this, as I >> still think STeVe has a role to play, not just as an internal tool, but >> something that could be used elsewhere. >> >> With regards, >> Daniel. >> >>> >>> --k >>>> Jim Jagielski <mailto:j...@jagunet.com> >>>> 2015-November-16 at 3:33 PM >>>> If STeVe still has the goal to be a generic voting system >>>> for use by not only the ASF but others as well, then it >>>> makes sense for us to continue as is. >>>> >>>> If, instead, the goals for STeVe have changed, or we have >>>> realized that the only realistic users for STeVe are, in >>>> fact, the ASF, then why not have Whimsy absorb STeVe as >>>> well? Certainly there is duplication, etc... which would >>>> make that viable. >>>> >>>> Far from being a collection of "absolutely unnecessary yet >>>> often quite handy applications", Whimsy is in fact becoming >>>> a core requirement for the ASF, and so unless STeVe really >>>> is going to stand on its own, it does seem to make sense >>>> to fold it into Whimsy. This might also encourage Whimsy >>>> to grow beyond its still singular (mostly) developer mode. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sam Ruby <mailto:ru...@intertwingly.net> >>>> 2015-November-16 at 3:18 PM >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Jim Jagielski<j...@jagunet.com> wrote: >>>>> I wonder if it's time to move STeVe to be under Whimsy... >>>> >>>> Could you explain what you mean by that? That's not to say that it is >>>> not an intriguing thought, but at the moment there is little overlap >>>> in development communities. >>>> >>>>> Or is the goal still to have STeVe be generic enough for >>>>> other external users? >>>> >>>> Independent of how we structure PMCs, I would hope that remains the >> goal. >>>> >>>> - Sam Ruby >>>> >>>>>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Daniel Gruno<humbed...@apache.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> To wit, the admin interface on vote-wip is found at: >>>>>> https://vote-wip.apache.org/admin/ >>>>>> >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> Daniel. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/12/2015 04:22 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/12/2015 04:12 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Daniel >>>>>>>> Gruno<humbed...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Gentle ping - it would be nice to get some feedback here :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> Daniel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2015, 3:13:38 PM, Daniel Gruno<humbed...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> So, let's start by gathering a bunch of people interested in >>>>>>>>>> configuring >>>>>>>>>> and monitoring an election (with multiple issues to vote on), >>>>>>>>>> and then >>>>>>>>>> let's get some folks to volunteer as voters. >>>>>>>> Are there instructions someplace for setting up and monitoring an >>>>>>>> election on your own hardware? >>>>>>> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/steve/trunk/pysteve/GETTING_STARTED.txt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's a very minimal install guide. I'll see if I have spare cycles to >>>>>>> elaborate a bit on how to install, but in my experience, it's just a >>>>>>> matter of pulling the pysteve contents into a CGI-enabled httpd >>>>>>> instance >>>>>>> and having a standard elasticsearch (if you choose to use that) DB >>>>>>> running on the same machine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the case of ASF's vote-wip instance, it uses LDAP auth which then >>>>>>> goes to steve.cfg and checks which rights you have on the machine. I >>>>>>> have set up you as an admin of the vote-wip instance, so you should >> be >>>>>>> able to see/do everything there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for monitoring: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you create an election, you specify who is designated as >>>>>>> monitor of >>>>>>> the election. Right before you invite everyone to an election, you >>>>>>> click >>>>>>> 'Cue monitors' in the admin interface, and they will receive a link >> to >>>>>>> the monitoring site along with some checksum values. This link stuff >>>>>>> needs some improvements (some uniqueness added to it), but the basics >>>>>>> work as intended. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> Daniel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Sam Ruby >>>>>>>> >>>> Jim Jagielski <mailto:j...@jagunet.com> >>>> 2015-November-16 at 3:12 PM >>>> I wonder if it's time to move STeVe to be under Whimsy... >>>> Or is the goal still to have STeVe be generic enough for >>>> other external users? >>>> >>>> >>>> Daniel Gruno <mailto:humbed...@apache.org> >>>> 2015-November-12 at 9:25 AM >>>> To wit, the admin interface on vote-wip is found at: >>>> https://vote-wip.apache.org/admin/ >>>> >>>> With regards, >>>> Daniel. >>>> >>>> Daniel Gruno <mailto:humbed...@apache.org> >>>> 2015-November-12 at 9:22 AM >>>> On 11/12/2015 04:12 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Daniel Gruno<humbed...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Gentle ping - it would be nice to get some feedback here :) >>>>>> >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> Daniel. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/11/2015, 3:13:38 PM, Daniel Gruno<humbed...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>> So, let's start by gathering a bunch of people interested in >>>>>>> configuring >>>>>>> and monitoring an election (with multiple issues to vote on), and >> then >>>>>>> let's get some folks to volunteer as voters. >>>>> Are there instructions someplace for setting up and monitoring an >>>>> election on your own hardware? >>>> >>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/steve/trunk/pysteve/GETTING_STARTED.txt >>>> >>>> It's a very minimal install guide. I'll see if I have spare cycles to >>>> elaborate a bit on how to install, but in my experience, it's just a >>>> matter of pulling the pysteve contents into a CGI-enabled httpd instance >>>> and having a standard elasticsearch (if you choose to use that) DB >>>> running on the same machine. >>>> >>>> In the case of ASF's vote-wip instance, it uses LDAP auth which then >>>> goes to steve.cfg and checks which rights you have on the machine. I >>>> have set up you as an admin of the vote-wip instance, so you should be >>>> able to see/do everything there. >>>> >>>> As for monitoring: >>>> >>>> When you create an election, you specify who is designated as monitor of >>>> the election. Right before you invite everyone to an election, you click >>>> 'Cue monitors' in the admin interface, and they will receive a link to >>>> the monitoring site along with some checksum values. This link stuff >>>> needs some improvements (some uniqueness added to it), but the basics >>>> work as intended. >>>> >>>> With regards, >>>> Daniel. >>>> >>>>> - Sam Ruby >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
