On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > On 11/17/2015 12:06 AM, Sean Kelly wrote: >> The total of two---count 'em, 2---threads on the u...@steve.apache.org >> mailing list since December 2014 might be an indication of a lack of >> outside interest. > > Well that veered off topic fast :) > > two threads on user@ is probably because we have _no release_ to offer > to people. There is one active developer and perhaps 3-4 active > contributors, and yes, that's an issue. We need to test what we have and > consider releasing at some point, even if it's just pySTeVe we release. > But that requires people that are interested in testing and releasing. > > I don't see how combining STeVe and Whimsy would solve much - if > anything, it would simply create two diaspora-projects within a TLP. > > Before we start considering drastic measures like combining TLPs or > moving to the attic, I would strongly urge the committers and PMC > members to at least try to help out with promoting STeVe and getting > some new blood to the project. If that fails completely, then fine - but > by golly, we should at least TRY. > > I for one will start looking for new people to help out with this, as I > still think STeVe has a role to play, not just as an internal tool, but > something that could be used elsewhere.
When projects approach me looking to enter the incubator and build a community, I stress the need for the project to have clear instructions on how to download, build, and test their changes. I asked earlier on this thread for this, and got basically a hand wave. If work starts on those aspects, I'll be a glad to increase my participation and spread the word. This could be instructions for setting up a Vagrant VM, or a Docker container, or running on your own machine. > With regards, > Daniel. - Sam Ruby >> --k >>> Jim Jagielski <mailto:j...@jagunet.com> >>> 2015-November-16 at 3:33 PM >>> If STeVe still has the goal to be a generic voting system >>> for use by not only the ASF but others as well, then it >>> makes sense for us to continue as is. >>> >>> If, instead, the goals for STeVe have changed, or we have >>> realized that the only realistic users for STeVe are, in >>> fact, the ASF, then why not have Whimsy absorb STeVe as >>> well? Certainly there is duplication, etc... which would >>> make that viable. >>> >>> Far from being a collection of "absolutely unnecessary yet >>> often quite handy applications", Whimsy is in fact becoming >>> a core requirement for the ASF, and so unless STeVe really >>> is going to stand on its own, it does seem to make sense >>> to fold it into Whimsy. This might also encourage Whimsy >>> to grow beyond its still singular (mostly) developer mode. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sam Ruby <mailto:ru...@intertwingly.net> >>> 2015-November-16 at 3:18 PM >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Jim Jagielski<j...@jagunet.com> wrote: >>>> I wonder if it's time to move STeVe to be under Whimsy... >>> >>> Could you explain what you mean by that? That's not to say that it is >>> not an intriguing thought, but at the moment there is little overlap >>> in development communities. >>> >>>> Or is the goal still to have STeVe be generic enough for >>>> other external users? >>> >>> Independent of how we structure PMCs, I would hope that remains the goal. >>> >>> - Sam Ruby >>> >>>>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Daniel Gruno<humbed...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> To wit, the admin interface on vote-wip is found at: >>>>> https://vote-wip.apache.org/admin/ >>>>> >>>>> With regards, >>>>> Daniel. >>>>> >>>>> On 11/12/2015 04:22 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: >>>>>> On 11/12/2015 04:12 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Daniel >>>>>>> Gruno<humbed...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> Gentle ping - it would be nice to get some feedback here :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> Daniel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/11/2015, 3:13:38 PM, Daniel Gruno<humbed...@apache.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> So, let's start by gathering a bunch of people interested in >>>>>>>>> configuring >>>>>>>>> and monitoring an election (with multiple issues to vote on), >>>>>>>>> and then >>>>>>>>> let's get some folks to volunteer as voters. >>>>>>> Are there instructions someplace for setting up and monitoring an >>>>>>> election on your own hardware? >>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/steve/trunk/pysteve/GETTING_STARTED.txt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a very minimal install guide. I'll see if I have spare cycles to >>>>>> elaborate a bit on how to install, but in my experience, it's just a >>>>>> matter of pulling the pysteve contents into a CGI-enabled httpd >>>>>> instance >>>>>> and having a standard elasticsearch (if you choose to use that) DB >>>>>> running on the same machine. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the case of ASF's vote-wip instance, it uses LDAP auth which then >>>>>> goes to steve.cfg and checks which rights you have on the machine. I >>>>>> have set up you as an admin of the vote-wip instance, so you should be >>>>>> able to see/do everything there. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for monitoring: >>>>>> >>>>>> When you create an election, you specify who is designated as >>>>>> monitor of >>>>>> the election. Right before you invite everyone to an election, you >>>>>> click >>>>>> 'Cue monitors' in the admin interface, and they will receive a link to >>>>>> the monitoring site along with some checksum values. This link stuff >>>>>> needs some improvements (some uniqueness added to it), but the basics >>>>>> work as intended. >>>>>> >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> Daniel. >>>>>> >>>>>>> - Sam Ruby >>>>>>> >>> Jim Jagielski <mailto:j...@jagunet.com> >>> 2015-November-16 at 3:12 PM >>> I wonder if it's time to move STeVe to be under Whimsy... >>> Or is the goal still to have STeVe be generic enough for >>> other external users? >>> >>> >>> Daniel Gruno <mailto:humbed...@apache.org> >>> 2015-November-12 at 9:25 AM >>> To wit, the admin interface on vote-wip is found at: >>> https://vote-wip.apache.org/admin/ >>> >>> With regards, >>> Daniel. >>> >>> Daniel Gruno <mailto:humbed...@apache.org> >>> 2015-November-12 at 9:22 AM >>> On 11/12/2015 04:12 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Daniel Gruno<humbed...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Gentle ping - it would be nice to get some feedback here :) >>>>> >>>>> With regards, >>>>> Daniel. >>>>> >>>>> On 10/11/2015, 3:13:38 PM, Daniel Gruno<humbed...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> So, let's start by gathering a bunch of people interested in >>>>>> configuring >>>>>> and monitoring an election (with multiple issues to vote on), and then >>>>>> let's get some folks to volunteer as voters. >>>> Are there instructions someplace for setting up and monitoring an >>>> election on your own hardware? >>> >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/steve/trunk/pysteve/GETTING_STARTED.txt >>> >>> It's a very minimal install guide. I'll see if I have spare cycles to >>> elaborate a bit on how to install, but in my experience, it's just a >>> matter of pulling the pysteve contents into a CGI-enabled httpd instance >>> and having a standard elasticsearch (if you choose to use that) DB >>> running on the same machine. >>> >>> In the case of ASF's vote-wip instance, it uses LDAP auth which then >>> goes to steve.cfg and checks which rights you have on the machine. I >>> have set up you as an admin of the vote-wip instance, so you should be >>> able to see/do everything there. >>> >>> As for monitoring: >>> >>> When you create an election, you specify who is designated as monitor of >>> the election. Right before you invite everyone to an election, you click >>> 'Cue monitors' in the admin interface, and they will receive a link to >>> the monitoring site along with some checksum values. This link stuff >>> needs some improvements (some uniqueness added to it), but the basics >>> work as intended. >>> >>> With regards, >>> Daniel. >>> >>>> - Sam Ruby >>>> >>> >> >
